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  • Finger MulletFinger Mullet Posts: 3,852 Officer
    They probably would. That's about 500 feet from my old PD. And I wouldn't try to run one of them over.

    Why is it that the officer could not manage a windshield shot? Only a side second row passenger shot to get a kill. Your opine is full of bs just like most police departments.
  • TripleXTripleX Posts: 1,772 Captain
    It's not like they give a ***** about you.

    I care about you brother!! Sayin...
  • HialeahAnglerHialeahAngler Posts: 9,612 Admiral
    Gary is a mod again as well?
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  • Gary S. ColecchioGary S. Colecchio Posts: 24,905 AG
    Why is it that the officer could not manage a windshield shot?

    I don't know.
    Only a side second row passenger shot to get a kill.

    No one was killed.
    Your opine is full of bs just like most police departments.

    Opinion. Which it is not. It simply reflects the standing determination of the incident. You are offering an opinion, which qualifies as BS.

    Gary is a mod again as well?

    SWTA
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  • SouthFloridaAnglerSouthFloridaAngler Posts: 3,164 Captain
    Shot the **** through the rear window.
    Cops can get away with anything.
  • duckmanJRduckmanJR Posts: 21,265 AG
    Shot the **** through the rear window.

    Well, You seem to be recovering nicely...you're back on the computer. :rotflmao
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  • Bimini TwistedBimini Twisted Posts: 11,443 AG

    ...There should be an IQ test to own a gun.(and a badge)...

    There is, many police departments don't hire cops with high IQ scores.

    http://www.mintpressnews.com/can-someone-be-too-smart-to-be-a-cop/192106/
  • TripleXTripleX Posts: 1,772 Captain
    There is, many police departments don't hire cops with high IQ scores.

    http://www.mintpressnews.com/can-someone-be-too-smart-to-be-a-cop/192106/

    I went through the academy with this guy who could ace any test you placed before him. His IQ had to be high up on the scale. He was the academic leader of the class, however; that said, he was as dumb as a box of rocks. He totally lacked common sense. With all the brain power he exhibited on paper, he totally lacked when dealing with high stress situations. He was the dumbest smart guy I've ever known. I'm not saying this is the case with every person, but it was for him. I would never feel safe responding to a hot call with this guy, regardless of how smart he was on paper.

    BTW, he couldn't cut being a cop and didn't even last one year. I think he became an insurance salesman, no lie... :grin
  • Finger MulletFinger Mullet Posts: 3,852 Officer
    Interesting Gary supports defending the officer without an official report. Nothing new here. I worked NSA for over 20 years as a sub, now domestic violence, our police have the upper hand period. Pick and choose as you may, but the virulence is overwhelming. So disgusting I could not take a domestic job. We are F*****.
  • duckmanJRduckmanJR Posts: 21,265 AG
    WOW!...Just above AVERAGE.... That sounds terrible! :rotflmao
    This will be solved when we have Police robots....:rotflmao

    I guess it is true. I told my SIL something a few years back...he laughed so hard and liked it so much it is the screen saver on his computer.

    Average...Not as smart as you think it is!

    Just a little Info though...
    100 is AVERAGE for a white .... less for both Black and Hispanic
    The Police should be made up of Asians at 112....or Hasidic Jews at 115

    Arguments are made that the test is flawed and ethnicly biased.
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  • MRichardsonMRichardson Posts: 10,466 AG
    Jews are smarterer than Asians?
    ****. I knew they was smart, but not that smart.
    I have never seen live bones, but I know that they are often used by rich people to decorate the interior.
  • cprcpr Posts: 9,299 Admiral
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  • duckmanJRduckmanJR Posts: 21,265 AG
    Jews are smarterer than Asians?
    ****. I knew they was smart, but not that smart.

    Yeah, I bet the Asians are pizzed and want a re-test! :rotflmao
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  • Gary S. ColecchioGary S. Colecchio Posts: 24,905 AG
    Interesting Gary supports defending the officer without an official report. Nothing new here. I worked NSA for over 20 years as a sub, now domestic violence, our police have the upper hand period. Pick and choose as you may, but the virulence is overwhelming. So disgusting I could not take a domestic job. We are F*****.

    Interesting thoughts at 3 o'clock in the morning. Is there a code book or ring from a Cracker Back jox, I can consult?

    The "official report" was the internal investigation where the state attorney did not find cause to prosecute the officer. There is nothing to support, only report.
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  • Triple Threat 33TTriple Threat 33T Posts: 18,668 AG
    Gary is a mod again as well?

    He's always been one, he was just operating undercover for a while.
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  • PolarPolar Posts: 22,492 AG
    ooooh top secrety
  • duckmanJRduckmanJR Posts: 21,265 AG
    He's always been one, he was just operating undercover for a while.

    I heard he had a group of rogue mods who if you were banned from FS...they actually went to your house and pepper sprayed you and smashed your computer.....
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  • duckmanJRduckmanJR Posts: 21,265 AG
    This topic begs the question..

    If cops are only "above average"...what are all those average...and dare I say it...below average people doing?
    There can't be that many custodian jobs :shrug What career fields do the slightly below work in?....
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  • Finger MulletFinger Mullet Posts: 3,852 Officer
    Interesting thoughts at 3 o'clock in the morning. Is there a code book or ring from a Cracker Back jox, I can consult?

    The "official report" was the internal investigation where the state attorney did not find cause to prosecute the officer. There is nothing to support, only report.

    First off Gary, even thou retired I still work odd hours, just woke up. 3 am is normal. Just because the SA claimed no issue does not mean there is not one, check your history books, fools been had before.
  • Triple Threat 33TTriple Threat 33T Posts: 18,668 AG
    duckmanJR wrote: »
    I heard he had a group of rogue mods who if you were banned from FS...they actually went to your house and pepper sprayed you and smashed your computer.....

    I can neither confirm nor deny that....
    "Lord, hold our troops in your loving hands. Protect them as they protect us. Bless them and their families for the selfless acts they perform for us in our time of need. Amen."
  • HeatwaveHeatwave Posts: 1,997 Captain
    Doesn't anyone see a problem in the process from 911 call to officer treating driver like a criminal (other than taking his mom's car) ?... I would have no problem defending the officer id he 1. Did not see the kid and was under the assumption it was a stolen car, car jack type, or even stolen out of a driveway. At that point the officer think the driver is a theif and possibly caring a firearm, let alone an attenmpt to run him over. On the other hand, it looks like the kid was just trying to get away, he is so slow he may have thought it was fun, a game, who knows.

    That is where the blame or there lack of should be directed. I would guess the officer, if a good guy, would feel terrible about the outcome. I just dont want to see something like this swept under the carpet, no change in 911 telecommunication, no change in "what if's" and if the cop acted responsible then the state needs to state such.
  • duckmanJRduckmanJR Posts: 21,265 AG
    I can neither confirm nor deny that....

    Ok Ok...but...Don't taze me bro.... :rotflmao
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  • Gary S. ColecchioGary S. Colecchio Posts: 24,905 AG
    First off Gary, even thou retired I still work odd hours, just woke up. 3 am is normal. Just because the SA claimed no issue does not mean there is not one, check your history books, fools been had before.

    In my experience, if the only no issue to see is represented by a personal injury attorney, there isn't one there.
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  • duckmanJRduckmanJR Posts: 21,265 AG
    Heatwave wrote: »
    Doesn't anyone see a problem in the process from 911 call to officer treating driver like a criminal (other than taking his mom's car) ?...

    Not to split hairs....since I do feel this is tragic.....BUT....

    Theft...is theft...regardless of if you steal moms car...her TV or $500 out of her dresser. Cops are not to decide charges...he was to apprehend the thief with her vehicle... the STATE ATTORNEY & COURT decides what is and isn't a crime or the seriousness that they wish to attach to that.

    The case is a Fete de acompli since it was investigated and no charges will be filed against the officer.....

    What the agency does regarding how the call was taken and dispatched ...that is up to the individual agency.
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  • HeatwaveHeatwave Posts: 1,997 Captain
    I can understand that if it was a regular person and the 911 caller called in and stated "someone just stole my car out front, or, my rouge son who has been in lots of trouble with the law just stole my car" "Do you think ? If a MOM calls in and says " My downsyndrome kid just took off in our car, it is the first time he has ever done anything like this, can you help us? " That the police or 911 should use that as a stolen car call, PERIOD... Arrest and consider the person dangerous ?

    I could see anyone turning around, seeing a car coming at them and pulling their weapon. I am sure most of us would. But had I known it was a downsyndrome kid, anyone with Good common sense would know to approach in a completely different way. The day will come when one of these kids gets a hold of a gun, it will happen and the police may have no choice but to shoot him. Will they shoot him in the chest 4 times to make sure he can't shoot back, or will they use a sniper to shoot the gun out of his hands ? I think an officer in todays world would say, either way, doesn't matter. An officer 50 years ago who was friends with the whole town would approach it differently.

    I think it makes a big difference and can have a big difference in the outcome. A **** person does not learn or is not capable of learning what police are all about, what a gun does, etc. The parents made a big mistake by allowing it to get to that point. I just don't know if the officer overeacted, or, did his job well because we dont know what was passed along.

    Every call into 911 cannot be only BLACK OR WHITE.....
  • lifegoesonlifegoeson Posts: 338 Deckhand
    Good shoot by the cop. Sad day for both family's however.
  • HeatwaveHeatwave Posts: 1,997 Captain
    lifegoeson wrote: »
    Good shoot by the cop. Sad day for both family's however.


    That is for sure. Tough spot and lots of hurt feeling... Parents should have done a better job... There had to be a hint of him thinking about taking off at some point...
  • Mango TangoMango Tango Posts: 2,018 Captain
    The officer is fortunate that his rounds passed through the windshield which supports his account of the vehicle moving towards him.
  • Finger MulletFinger Mullet Posts: 3,852 Officer
    In my experience, if the only no issue to see is represented by a personal injury attorney, there isn't one there.

    Really Gary, lying about a shooting is OK in your book. I can see abroad but domestic total ****, we are supposed to be better, why lye?

    This type of crap undermines our support of local police, just disgusting.
  • Finger MulletFinger Mullet Posts: 3,852 Officer
    Really Gary, lying about a shooting is OK in your book. I can see abroad but domestic total ****, we are supposed to be better, why lye?

    This type of crap undermines our support of local police, just disgusting.


    Just look at the local Seth Adams case, **** was shot by a police officer whom had serious review issues, yet nothing, not a **** thing, he deserves to be in prison. Things are going to change.
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