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Video disputes statement of PBSO deputy in shooting of boy

Finger MulletFinger Mullet Posts: 3,852 Officer
This the most blatant lying by both the cop and State Attorney, just disgusting, if this type of sheet continues, the public will not trust law enforcement at all.

Could not embed video, but it is real short.

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In 2010, Amy Hutton called 911, frantic: Her 17-year-old son, Jeremy, who suffered from Down syndrome, had taken her minivan for a drive.

Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office deputies responded and found Jeremy Hutton driving slowly down Royal Palm Beach Boulevard. One tire was flattened after he hit a curb.

The next moments would end with a deputy shooting Hutton, whose lawyers say has the mental capacity of a 3- to 6-year-old, three times.

When Hutton came to a stop at Okeechobee Boulevard, deputy Jason Franqui pulled his patrol car in front of him, blocking the minivan’s path. Franqui got out of his cruiser.

Hutton then drove around the car, clipping the driver’s side door and bumping the front corner. Franqui fired six times, saying that Hutton looked into his eyes, turned the steering wheel to the right and drove directly at him.

Police and prosecutors justified the shooting, saying that video confirmed that when Franqui fired, he was in front of the minivan.

“The witnesses, physical evidence and video evidence all establish that at the time deputy Franqui discharged his weapon, Hutton was driving his vehicle directly at him,” then-State Attorney Michael McAuliffe wrote in a memo to Sheriff Ric Bradshaw.

But The Post obtained the videos of the incident, and they show the opposite: Franqui was beside or behind Hutton’s minivan when he started shooting. The six shots, recorded on his cruiser’s in-car recorder, ring out after Hutton strikes the vehicle.

Unmentioned in the PBSO and state attorney reports: The back and side windows of Hutton’s minivan were shot out. And two rounds went into a passing motorist’s car. That driver was not hurt.

Hutton was shot in the head, shoulder and hand and lived, according to his lawyers. His family is now suing PBSO.

The case is one of many The Post and WPTV NewsChannel 5 detailed in a yearlong investigation into police shootings in Palm Beach County and the Treasure Coast.

The investigation revealed that the department’s internal investigators investigators often rely solely on the deputy’s version of events, ignoring or downplaying conflicting evidence such as videos to justify deadly force, even when it seems apparent that the deputy violated agency protocol.
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  • cprcpr Posts: 9,299 Admiral
    It looks to me like he was stopped and then tried to drive between the patrol cars and came close to hitting the cop. It's a difficult call but a motor vehicle can be considered a deadly weapon. If the cops did not know about the driver and that he had downs syndrome, I can see why the shooting was justified. The cops door was hit he was standing next to the door.
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  • Finger MulletFinger Mullet Posts: 3,852 Officer
    cpr the cop said he opened his door and was standing outside when he shot, he shot the kid after he ran down the street, heck if his door was opened as he said it would have been removed. Read back side window on left side was shot out.
  • PolarPolar Posts: 22,492 AG
    plain and simple he was in fear for his life. If he was going to attempt to run down the officer, he would attempt to run down innocents as well. He did what he had to do to prevent anything further from happening. Maybe mom should have hidden the keys a little bit better from her mentally handicapped child.
  • cprcpr Posts: 9,299 Admiral
    cpr the cop said he opened his door and was standing outside when he shot, he shot the kid after he ran down the street, heck if his door was opened as he said it would have been removed. Read back side window on left side was shot out.

    All of which happened in 2 seconds 1928.00 to 1928.02, react, draw and fire, there is no thought involved, just reaction. As far as a lie, perception is difficult with an adrenaline rush.

    And perception depends on an individual. If I was on a grand Jury and saw this as the only evidence, my perception says it's an Okay shoot.
    "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function." F. Scott Fitzgerald

    "Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future." Niels Bohr
  • HomerSimpsonHomerSimpson Posts: 6,573 Admiral
    when he got out of the car the van revved up and started straight for him. that's when the decision to shoot was made. Can't tell if that's when he started shooting because of the sound of the car, and he deff shot after the car passed.

    If the cop did not know the mental capacity of the driver before hand, its hard to second guess in that situation.




    That said, cops do need more training in dealing with mental issue kids. Its hard to understand the behavior of severely autistic, DS and such kids unless you've been with them. What would seem to be bad behavior by us
    "normal" people is typical of their condition and not warranted of excessive force. May or may not have helped in this situation. Just in general
  • Finger MulletFinger Mullet Posts: 3,852 Officer
    Gentlemen he started shooting AFTER the van passed him
  • PolarPolar Posts: 22,492 AG
    Gentlemen he started shooting AFTER the van passed him

    so he was trying to stop the guy from running over innocent people or causing more property damage.
  • Finger MulletFinger Mullet Posts: 3,852 Officer
    Point is they lied. Also hope a cop never thinks you are threat and just dispatches you.
  • PolarPolar Posts: 22,492 AG
    I wouldnt be stupid enough to try to run one over
  • Finger MulletFinger Mullet Posts: 3,852 Officer
    Polar you are missing the point cop and DA claimed officer feared for his life to justify the shooting, which clearly was not the case. If he claimed he discharged his weapon to protect the public, I would have never posted this.
  • fish_stixfish_stix Posts: 1,395 Officer
    Finger Mullet; go to about .55 on the video. Clearly shows door bent around towards front of vehicle and glass and debris on the ground.
  • SchmidtySchmidty Posts: 6,806 Admiral
    :Popcorn.....and...?
  • coldaircoldair Posts: 11,490 AG
    can't we just get rid of the cops and live in peace, I am sure people we behave
    169304.GIF
  • Gary S. ColecchioGary S. Colecchio Posts: 24,905 AG
    Attempted murder. Good shoot. Next case.
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  • mitchellmastermitchellmaster Posts: 363 Officer
    If you want to get rid of a family member call the cops.
  • GROUPER SCOOPERGROUPER SCOOPER Posts: 1,871 Captain
    Kid turned the wheel before the van even moved.Shots fired AFTER van was passing officer....not coming at him because the van never came AT him.Cop lied saying driver turned the wheel and came AT him.


    Do any of the officers here chase down a vehicle...pull sideways in front of it...then exit their patrol car directly in the line of fire so to speak all nonchalant:huh
    Everything affects everything.You can't just change one thing.Every thing is connected.
  • Mango TangoMango Tango Posts: 2,018 Captain
    I'm usually for the police in these scenarios that pop up on the forums. But that police officer was a **** (and a liar). That scary minivan was in no way threatening........unless it was one of the new minivans that can move sideways.
  • Team SabatageTeam Sabatage Posts: 13,014 AG
    Polar wrote: »
    I wouldnt be stupid enough to try to run one over

    Well, you're not **** and operating at the level of a 3 to 6 year old....or are you?
    Strap me in, tie me down and roll me a bone, I'm getting on an airplane and I'm flying home...
  • Westwall01Westwall01 Posts: 5,452 Admiral
  • duckmanJRduckmanJR Posts: 21,265 AG
    Sad ending due to the mitigating circumstances...but a good shoot.

    What civilians will never comprehend is that officer...and any officer who has to do that...will constantly relive it over in his mind...the " what if's " and " If only's "
    and it will replay in his nightmares...forever...and that..is a long f**king time.
    There are many roads to travel
    Many things to do.
    Knots to be unraveled
    'fore the darkness falls on you
  • Ron@.38 Special[email protected] Special Posts: 6,921 Admiral
    Thats what happens when two people with the mental capacity of a three years old have an encounter and one has a gun.
    There should be an IQ test to own a gun.(and a badge)

    Mistake, the mother of a mentally incapacitated son calling the cops on him. It never works out good when you get those guys involved in a family issue.
  • Mango TangoMango Tango Posts: 2,018 Captain
    duckmanJR wrote: »
    .........that officer......will constantly relive it over in his mind....


    ......the truth or the lie?
  • cadmancadman Posts: 43,685 AG
    Attempted murder. Good shoot. Next case.

    You are correct.

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    I am just here for my amusement. 

  • MRichardsonMRichardson Posts: 10,466 AG
    Sad how many support the police in situations like this.

    It's not like they give a ***** about you.
    I have never seen live bones, but I know that they are often used by rich people to decorate the interior.
  • Gary S. ColecchioGary S. Colecchio Posts: 24,905 AG
    Sad how many support the police in situations like this.

    It's not like they give a ***** about you.

    They probably would. That's about 500 feet from my old PD. And I wouldn't try to run one of them over.
    "If I can't win, I won't play." - Doris Colecchio.

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  • PolarPolar Posts: 22,492 AG
    my landlord, who is a cop, bought me some vodka. I like him, he is my friend
  • MRichardsonMRichardson Posts: 10,466 AG
    It's a setup Polar.
    I have never seen live bones, but I know that they are often used by rich people to decorate the interior.
  • Lucky7Team2Lucky7Team2 Posts: 6,793 Admiral
    Well, you're not **** and operating at the level of a 3 to 6 year old....or are you?

    Debatable...
  • PolarPolar Posts: 22,492 AG
    Well, you're not **** and operating at the level of a 3 to 6 year old....or are you?

    lol, Im lmao over this comment :rotflmao
  • HeatwaveHeatwave Posts: 1,997 Captain
    Polar wrote: »
    plain and simple he was in fear for his life. If he was going to attempt to run down the officer, he would attempt to run down innocents as well. He did what he had to do to prevent anything further from happening. Maybe mom should have hidden the keys a little bit better from her mentally handicapped child.


    I dont think a Down sydrome kid would be smart enough to THINK about that. It was just a "i am taking the car, see ya" with no intention at all. If the cops didnt know about his mental problem, that is a problem... I would bet the mom said it all and by the time it was reported to police or what the police took it as was "stolen car... Go get em" They should have known who he was, blocked him in properly to prevent him from going further. I would guess you are right that he feared for his life if he did not get all the correct info. That is where the blame should be put or the investigation leads too.

    Of course if we had proper facilities for these kids it would never happen.. Send him home and make the parents be the jail to lock him up. What a screwed up society...
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