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Canon EF-70-200 F/2.8I IS II USM

Don BDon B Senior MemberSlidell laPosts: 857 Officer
I am looking to purchase a new lens for boat pics,(marlin, sailfish, Tarpon) mostly fast action high light stuff, I am thinking about the above lens, with out the stabilizer. Has anybody had any experience with this lens, or any recommendations for something else in this category?

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  • WaterEngineerWaterEngineer Senior Member Posts: 24,412 AG
    I will wait for the Canon guys to chime in but I will suggest the 100-400mm f/5.6 lens.
  • ChuckcChuckc Senior Member Posts: 4,397 Captain
    Not a Canon guy but I would not do it personally. The 70-200 2.8 lens is a large, heavy, expensive and somewhat fragile piece and a boat isn't where I would be comfy using one. For me, the 55-250 IS or the latest Tamron 70-300 VC, USD, alphabet soup lens would get the nod. Probably the Tamron with the 6 year warranty and a little extra reach.
  • mississippi macmississippi mac Senior Member Ocean Springs, Ms. (da coast)Posts: 4,222 Captain
    first, you wouldn't want one without IS, especially shooting forma boat which I do a lot...
    you might want to try ef 70-300 IS USM which is a surprisingly good piece of glass and way cheaper...about $650 new...

    tim
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    The Real White Dog

    if you can't catch a fish...catch a buzz....
    #12976, joined 8-17-2002
  • Don BDon B Senior Member Slidell laPosts: 857 Officer
    Tim, with the f/4-f/5.6 settings can you achieve that shallow depth of field to really make the subject stand out? Also I did not think the IS would be that big of an issue when shooting a fast shutter speed using the lower f-stop. Please correct me where I'm wrong as I'm in a learning curve. Thanks.
  • WaterEngineerWaterEngineer Senior Member Posts: 24,412 AG
    Don B wrote: »
    Tim, with the f/4-f/5.6 settings can you achieve that shallow depth of field to really make the subject stand out? Also I did not think the IS would be that big of an issue when shooting a fast shutter speed using the lower f-stop. Please correct me where I'm wrong as I'm in a learning curve. Thanks.

    I will answer for Tim as he doesn't seem to be around.

    At the distances you will be shooting Sails and Tarpon, yes, you can isolate the critter away from the background. As the subject moves farther from the camera the depth of field increases.

    Maybe this little video will hep understand the concept - it is fairly clear. >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbfwhjxK-cs#t=45

    Another way to look at it, is you don't want that super shallow DOF anyway, because the critter is going to be wriggling all around and you want to keep it in focus. It would be harder to keep the critter in focus at f/2.8 at any distance close enough to you to be meaningful for you to even consider f/2.8.

    As for shutter speed - today's cameras have such good high ISO that you don't have to worry too much about grainy, noisy photos at elevated ISOs. This fact has changed a lot in the last four years or so.

    What body are you using, T3i, D70, D7? I suggest shooting in Sv, dialing in your shutter speed and letting the camera figure out the rest. Keep the camera on "Auto ISO." Dial in the shutter to 1/640-1/1200. That should be a good place to start.

    Good luck and let us know who you do. Post a few and ask more questions.
  • Don BDon B Senior Member Slidell laPosts: 857 Officer
    I have a 60D, and a 7d, which I have recently purchased. I am headed down to Golfito in a couple weeks and hope to get some pics worthy of mounting in my office.
  • ChuckcChuckc Senior Member Posts: 4,397 Captain
    I would rather have a sharp shot with too much DOF than an out of focus shot. The former can be altered in post to give you the look you want more or less but the latter is lost.
  • bmarkeybmarkey Senior Member Royal Palm Beach, Fla.Posts: 319 Deckhand
    The 70-200 2.8 is probably Canon's greatest lens. Try to buy the IS version, but the non-IS is just as sharp. The II versions are supposed to be better but the original versions are great. Save money and buy a good used one.

    Bob Markey
    United Realty Group
    www.WellingtonHomes.com
    Sport, Event & Real Estate Photography
    Palms West Photo
    www.MarkeySportsPhoto.com
  • WaterEngineerWaterEngineer Senior Member Posts: 24,412 AG
    One last point, from a non-Canon user.

    Since you are buying new, I would suggest a hard look at the 70-200 f/4 lens, as it is smaller and lighter than the f/2.8 lens. That is if you are really committed to the focal length.
  • Don BDon B Senior Member Slidell laPosts: 857 Officer
    Thanks for all of the feed back, I bought one MissMac suggested, Hope to get something good with it over the next couple weeks.

    Also, when I get back, I'm going to buy that 70-200 2.8 with stabilizer. a ,man just can't have too many toys.:dance
  • mississippi macmississippi mac Senior Member Ocean Springs, Ms. (da coast)Posts: 4,222 Captain
    Don,

    i have the f4 70-200 "L" IS USM...
    it's a lot lighter piece of glass to lug around than the f2.8 is...
    i have used the f2.8 and it is indeed a great piece of glass but i wouldn't buy either new....

    i have posted too many times that i usuually end up grabbing my ef 70-300 f4-f5.6 IS USM more often than the "L" lense...
    it's a really good piece of glass and a little bit more versitle with the extra 100mm...

    as Craig said, at f4 or f5.6, you can work around the slower lens with higher iso, although i seldom shoot faster than iso 400, or have to...

    tim
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    The Real White Dog

    if you can't catch a fish...catch a buzz....
    #12976, joined 8-17-2002
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