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They are plenty accurate if you shoot from a rest on a bench. With a sling held in a manner that creates some tension while holding reasonable accuracy can be had off hand.
Too Funny!
Trauma plates typically are made out of ceramic. In absorbing the energy of the bullet they shatter.
Gas piston system....
"Armor piercing" is a moniker. As far as armor vest that police wear and even military armor can be defeated by just about any hunting round such as a 30-06 or even a .308. And even if the round does not penetrate the vest the trama to your internal organs would probably be enough to kill a man.
As someone else said, it's just a start. I would guess that 9mm or 7.62 would be next.
And lets not forget that the EPA considers lead to be a toxin.:wink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dGxRw8Jq70#t=112
The M855 round was designed for the original M16. I think it had a 1.5 twist barrel.
the second amendment is not the sportsman's right, it's not a hunting law, it's a law critical to keep the government from putting the citizens on their knees.
now before some idiot claims that AR's are WMDs you need to learn how the founders truly thought. during the revolution our militia and army was poorly funded so citizens stepped up purchased weapons including canons for use by our army. after the war those weapons were refurbished or replaced and returned to those citizens. so in fact the founders returned weapons far more dangerous to the citizens then any AR
....and to do so will get you put in jail for years.
And to tell you the truth...in just about every instance...a "HP" handgun bullet ...loaded to SAAMI specks...for the most part doesn't do much more than flatten a bit at the nose.
All of these "let's take stuff away" laws are designed to harass and harangue law abiding citizens by people who don't know anything other than they want to disarm the American population and....in reality... make them "pogie bait" for criminals who don't get a squat about any laws to begin with.
If they really wanted to do something worth while....they would enact punishment for every law on the books that would be so terrible that only societal degenerates would ever break the laws.
Also got a whole bunch of Russian ammo which I nail polished years back, good forever. Just check my old russian supplier, no problem getting any 223 shipped anywhere.
As far as accuracy, well AR15s and mini 14s just suck but with a laser pointer and less than 100 yards who cares just sayin.
Edit..always can throw in a few tracer rounds.
Before this cluster, I would say that would never happen. Now, I can just hear Obama telling Americans that those are dangerous "military" rounds used in war.
Actually from what I recall, perfectly legal on your property, just nowhere else.
Do you ever ask the folks that make that argument if the first Amendment extends to the internet?
And just how many AR's do you own. Mini's yea their accuracy is questionable but AR's, you must have got one with a bent barrel.
Well....
Like "gandrfab". stated "NJ".....
Now I don't know how many "human" targets you've pierced, but many years back on a bank robbery Philadelphia Swat's Dominic F. and his crew drug out three "bad guys" who were shot multiple times with 9mm +P+ JHP and one of the "pass-thru's" was collected from his coat on the exit side....it was flattened slightly...but nothing more.
Plainly put.....the velocity of a handgun round loaded to SAAMI specs is simply anemic and doesn't really expand like most people believe they do.
If it wasn't for all the "stuff" about everyone must having a high capacity sidearm...............and going "gangster" every time a LEO had to discharge his weapon....I would rather see "the boys in blue" all carrying a 44 magnum with 300 grain heavy copper cupped dead soft lead rounds ....hopped up to a somewhat blistering velocity...for it's weight.
These rounds...when hitting human flesh and bone....will flatten out to a size of a quarter and will impart it's energy on the target without not a whole lot of chance of almost full velocity pass thru.
You don't need to hit someone 10 time in the torso to put them down with rounds like this.
When I carry my "9"...I use cast lead gas check bullets that I hand load until the primers flatten. When they hit a steel target they flatten out completely and it's doubtful that a "pass-thru" on a human target would ever occur...like 9MM FMJ's most often do without "the target" dropping in it's tracks.
As far as LEO's pulling out an "AR" on a criminal....well.....it's pretty much well a "done deal" for the poor dumb ba#**** who's breaking the law.....no matter what the configuration of the bullet...when he get's hit.....mostly multiple times....it's the morgue and not the court that he'll be going to.
I don't know what AR15 you were shooting but not one of mine shoot worse then the best bolt action fudd gun
yeah, ar is a little better than the minis however, still a blast out and go gun, nothing touching my Cheytac .408
You would like Corbon's 40 S&W 135gr. +Ps. You can almost pinch the bullet rim closed. Velocity: 1325fps
Energy: 526ftlbs
PS. Heavy clothing is notorious for preventing HP bullet expansion.
I believe that you're right....sure I'd like it...
Way better than a 9MM of any bullet weight....or any .38spcl....and you are most assuredly right about a heavy coat clogging thing in the nose oh a HP up....and slowing it up also....
Our "Boys In Blue" these days "SOMETIMES" appear to be more like IPSC shooters on a shot clock when they get into a "skirmish" with bad guys these days. In many ways they seem to emulate the Marine Corps theory of "Fire Power" when unholstering...."you shoot one at me...I shoot a thousand at you...I win"........and ...at least for the Marine Corps....it really does work.
Shooting "AT" someone 15 times at close range is pretty wild especially "if" you only hit them one...maybe two times in the leg. It does make one think, "Where the hell did the other 13 go"?
And not to down play the fierceness of your 40 with Cor-Bons.......I would like to see all LEO"s carry a S&W 629 - 4" loaded with a 300gr JHP loaded to Muzzle Velocity: 1300 fps Muzzle Energy: 1126 ft. lbs......and even that might not "open up" and mushroom like many would desire......so maybe the first three in the "wheel" should be gas checked 300 gr soft lead?....They will flatten like a silver dollar and impart all their energy to the target without much chance of pass thru.
Either way...any "bad guy" who get's hit with one of those will get the "what fer" that he deserves.
Some may say that not everyone can handle a weapon with that much power and in that statement....they are right. My reply is that they should look for different work........it should have been a mandatory tool of the trade long ago......and to hell with all "spray and pray" gunfire crap.
If a guy shows up to bang 20d nails and the only thing he can swing is a 16oz finish hammer I don't think he'll get the job done...
Forgive me... Iv'e looked at this picture with your daughter and laughed at it every time.. Can't tell if she is scared of the fish or her
daddy...??? It's great.... !!
That's not me... I'm much taller and better looking. The day I look down at her face and don't get a chuckle from her thousand-yard-stare, I'll probably remove it.
http://www.damncoolpictures.com/2010/07/barracuda-jumps-into-boat-bites-14-year.html