There is just so much information now, offers, tests, etc. Neither of us went to a major college, the process is new to us and we are, hate to say it, lost and overwhelmed. We want to offer her the best education we can. Yet affraid we will miss something this year or next on the runup to chosing, costs, grants, etc...
The consultant business is big now. We are going to give it a try. Look for the best bang for the buck. Someone here has to hae a good and or bad story.
On top of that, she is still a little unsure of what she wants to do... Been headed towards a PA... I think there will be lots of jobs in that field, even for a PA. I also think hospitals and Private practice doctors will have that job reduced down to a 50K a year job as they increase their own pay to 750K from 400K.
Any help would be greatly appriciated, more than you will even know...
We went to many college nights,expo's at schools ,gathered lot of information Good Bad, there is many Grants//scholarship that go unused each year look hard at Pell Grants, Daughter did not even apply yet was give scholarship by Bank which we did not use.
A great Book is called ""Don't Miss out"" I do not think I would hire or such as consultant yet until you have reached end of rope doing some digging spend few hours here there will keep every one up to speed one may find a point others overlooked
I would have to ask Daughter how ever she worked at some cafeteria Campus) for meals few bucks pocket money, so schools have programs such as this, as I dam sure could not afford her going to Marquette on Chief in Navy pay
Not going to be an easy task but doable also share with other families in same situation, Oh she also asked her teaches about their school about financial aid packages and what better place to get info right from Alumni
I went to a seminar put on by one of those consultants, it seemed very expensive for what they offered. The bad thing is they wont say what they can do for you until you sit down with them and start the process. I understand everyone has different circumstances, but it seemed like he could have at least narrowed it down. I might check out that book that was recommended.
After 2 years of community college they can transfer to a university and when they graduate their degree will be no different than the students who spent their entire time at the university.
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You think a DR makes 400k...ha...maybe in the old day. Dr'a graduation now are happy to make their loan payments and drive a Camry.
Nothing wrong with being a PA either. I know lots of docs and a few PAs. Both like their jobs but until you are through 2-3 years of college you never know. Good luck to your daughter!
Seeing more and more PA at VA hospital and most walk in clinics locally have a couple of staff PA..
I cant buy off on consultant, afraid they will paint a pretty visual picture and not harsh reality explaining pit falls and obstacles in way of attaining goal
I would rather hire a bright kid who excelled in a lesser school than a kid who did average in a "good" school.
I agree that community college can be cheaper and easier to get the basic required classes out of the way. I would urge you to try to limit that amount of student loans if you can. If she continues with the med school track, the loans can easily be >$100k.
My wife is getting her PHD in Biology, and many of her classmates have 10s of thousands even 100k in student loan debt. Some chose to go to schools out of state. Sometimes, that is necessary for some career tracts, but usually you can at least get the 4yr degree in state which is cheaper. With a lot of hard work, some luck, some students can get grants/fellowships which will pay for school, and/or even provide a salary during school. Your daughter can look these up and apply for them. (national science foundation, national institute of health etc..)
As for the consultant, my issue is that the the student not the parents should learn and work the system. That is part of the learning process. If they can figure out and deal with the adult world, then they are ready, otherwise they might need more seasoning.
"Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future." Niels Bohr
Jesus what has it come to?
Pick a university.
Pick a program.
Excel in said program.
Mix with corporate sponsors/alumni.
Work with the career dept of the school.
Knowing what to do is easy, you don't need a consultant for that.
If your child doesn't have access to this via their current school, you may be able to contact them directly for some data-driven insight based on your child's performance and interests.
Disclaimer- I have no ties to the company just have a unique view of this market because of my career.
Get good grades, good SAT scores, referrals from teacher, and apply. You get in some and not others, so choose your fav.
Great Grades, Bright Futures, Pre-Paid Tuition, Great ACT Scores all lead up to being accepted to a great state school!
For most kids, I think you guys are correct.
Sorry, just getting back to this.. As far as the CC goes, she will have a two year degree before she is out of high school from IRCC.. That is the good, the bad is that she only does anything of this because we push. She in NOT leading the way here. Her mother and I were both go getters, so to speak, but did so only after learning high school was not enough. We did not know each other then of course.
Anyway, back to KID.. Great kid, and will do anything we ask, but that is it. Not much on the social side for getting out with others, making contacts, etc. That could have a lot to do with both parents working from home and making good money. She see's it as easy...
Neither of us have any experience with making sure she gets all the money she can. I would think that there is something that offers that... No ?
I think it would be best for her to learn this process on her own. With us just to guide a little, like others wrote, not really ready for big school. I know, if not now, it will never happen as I can see her NOT fighting hard for what she wants. I for one won't lay out each thing for her, somethings she needs to learn. On the other hand, my wife will say when frustrated watching our girl struggle with something, here, let me do it. THen say, see, that is how it is done. Bad bad experience for a kid and I keep stating such. She won't listen and wants to bring her up much slower than I do. It could be something as simple as cleaning the car. In place of working with her, she would rather tell her howe to do it, then complain when it isn't correct. I get frustrated with that stuff because I know spending time with her is much better.
Her form of spending time with her is shopping, or watching TV. Never doing 'life experience things"...
who knows. her investment may end up being in her partner.
Right now it is all guide, do this, do that....
it's a hell of a shot to ask a kid to call, today
Gotta be a better way that isn't some ticking clock with a huge bill at the end.
Oh brother... no thank you. She goes next year to a big florida (paid for) college or she never goes... If we dont push for it now, it will never happen... How many people have said, yea, going to comm. college this year and then next year to a big school. By then, they are of adult age and one argument with Mom sends her out the door (wanting to live on her own or with boyfriend). College is then in the rearview mirror to never be approached again.
And how many times have we all heard, wish I stayed in college, wish my parents made me.... wish I could afford to go to college. You get one chance at this, that is it. I can understand from a college educated person posting on here.
Pick a college, go, go to work, done !
Or from someone that has done good without college writing "it is not really needed"
Hundreds of views on this... Ours is in the middle I think, we really want her to go and know you only get one shot. Do it now or regret it later. I would think that is where most would fall.
Again, CC will be over with and it is time to go on... for the connections, for the experience, for the growth which she needs badly...
Kinda off the topic...but have you considered guiding her towards an enlistment in the military to let her "grow " a bit before committing to a career ? ...
Many things to do.
Knots to be unraveled
'fore the darkness falls on you
Good idea duck.
BTW, If she's really smart the navy is desperate math geniuses for nuke stuff. They are offering great deals.
If she needs motivation let her pay her cell phone bill, auto insurance, and so on. Or she goes to school and keeps sponging off mom and dad. My youngest just figured that out. He only wanted a AA, now he's thinking of milking the deal longer.
"Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future." Niels Bohr
Hopefully she falls in the middle. Great kid, no trouble out of her at all. Too good sometimes... She won't stand up for herself, give an opinion, that kind of stuff...
In the end, it will all work out, one way or another and she will be fine. As a parent you can't help but to worry...
Why send her off to the Air Force or Navy for the next 4 years?
is this still the option it once was?