Some interesting water facts

Gary S. Colecchio

gandrfab wrote: »

Just saying the state can impose rules on you that the state doesn't have to follow.

Please provide examples of this , especially involving the state or any other public entity irrigating roadway landscaping outside water use regulations . I will split the reward for turning them in with you.

WaterEngineer

gandrfab wrote: »

Just saying the state can impose rules on you that the state doesn't have to follow.

I agree with Gary. My experience is that local government personnel and state personnel have bent themselves over backwards to make sure they follow regulations and meet permit requirements.

gandrfab

Gary S. Colecchio wrote: »

Please provide examples of this , especially involving the state or any other public entity irrigating roadway landscaping outside water use regulations . I will split the reward for turning them in with you.

Watering your grass on odd or even days, yet the sprinklers run daily on state/county/city landscaping. Get'm

Gary S. Colecchio

Details, man. Details.

gandrfab

I ain't got them, but have seen it. Heck I don't even drive/live in a area that the state/county/city waters the grass anymore.

Fishshrimpsnorkel

There are exceptions for new landscaping - areas that have just been planted.

stc1993

pottydoc wrote: »

stc, where did you get that figure? Not arguing with you, but the large part of the toilets in the US use 1.6 or less gallons a flush. I would think flushing 5-6 times a day would be average, that's less than 10 gallons. Irrigation is probably the biggest non commercial use.

http://water.usgs.gov/edu/qa-home-percapita.html

hatcity

Many municipalities are now re-using water for irrigation (read waste water)
Can have it piped to HOA's or other type communities.

Dig up the pipe. is it purple?

stc1993

I've seen that purple pipe in Franklin Co. when they were building the new prison. I googled it & purple pipe = recycled water system.

rock_fish

Reclaimed seems to always go into more affluent neighborhoods. And golf courses, country clubs use a ton of it. That one in North Pinellas uses a lot

pottydoc

stc1993 wrote: »

http://water.usgs.gov/edu/qa-home-percapita.html

All I see in that link is someone saying toilets use the most. Nothing to back it up. 1.6 gallons or less per flush toilets have been required nation wide since the early '90s. 3 gallon per flush toilets sine the '70s. Before that they were 5 gallons per flush. Even at 3 gallons, a person would have to flush about 17 times each day to use a majority flushing toilets. I don't think the average is that high. 80-100 gallons a day wouldn't surprise me, but not with most coming from flushing toilets. Maybe we could have a forum survey, and everyone keep track for a couple weeks.

Parkerboy

pottydoc wrote: »

All I see in that link is someone saying toilets use the most. Nothing to back it up. 1.6 gallons or less per flush toilets have been required nation wide since the early '90s. 3 gallon per flush toilets sine the '70s. Before that they were 5 gallons per flush. Even at 3 gallons, a person would have to flush about 17 times each day to use a majority flushing toilets. I don't think the average is that high. 80-100 gallons a day wouldn't surprise me, but not with most coming from flushing toilets. Maybe we could have a forum survey, and everyone keep track for a couple weeks.

Say you have a family of 4, it wouldn't be difficult to reach 25-30 flushes per day especially if a couple of beer drinkers were there. Then add 4 showers per day, a couple of loads of laundry, dishes being washed, lawn watered, and various other uses and 100 gallons per person would not be unusual.

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pottydoc

Parker, it says 80-100 gallons per PERSON, not a family of four. I have no argument with the 80-100 gallon a day figure, it's the claim that most of it is flushing toilets that I seriously doubt. The total use is easy to calculate, next tie you get your water bill, it'll have the total gallons used, and the number of days in the billing cycle. Divide gallons by days, and then that number by the number of people in the house.

PP1

rock_fish wrote: »

Reclaimed seems to always go into more affluent neighborhoods. And golf courses, country clubs use a ton of it. That one in North Pinellas uses a lot

Reclaimed usually goes in new neighborhoods, it's very expensive to go into an existing neighborhoods and put new systems in.

Golf courses get it because they use a ton of water. It's better for them and better for the municipality that has to get rid of it. It's a lot easier to give it to one big user and is typically dumped into some of their ponds and they re-pump it through their sprinkler system.

rock_fish

It also requires quarterly ground water sampling on those golf courses.

cadman

rock_fish wrote: »

It also requires quarterly ground water sampling on those golf courses.

Why?

rock_fish

See the impact on the watershed. A lot of chemicals are involved in reclaimed. Chlorine obviously, then removing the chlorine creates a byproduct, i want to say sulfide. Can't recall. New tech is using UV light to clean

cadman

rock_fish wrote: »

See the impact on the watershed. A lot of chemicals are involved in reclaimed. Chlorine obviously, then removing the chlorine creates a byproduct, i want to say sulfide. Can't recall. New tech is using UV light to clean

I know they soil test for those things. But one of the main benefits of using gray water is the natural filtering process. I know several place that use gray water around here and I don't think any test ground water samples.They use Chlorine to shock wells that may have contamination.

rock_fish

Ya but gray water doesn't have e coli and industrial waste.

Touring a **** water plant is a cool everybody experience if you get the chance

cadman

rock_fish wrote: »

Ya but gray water doesn't have e coli and industrial waste.

Touring a **** water plant is a cool everybody experience if you get the chance

But gray water is the only reclaimed water used for golf course irrigation. Are they using something different? I assumed the term reclaimed was being used for grey water. Sewage water is treated to become gray water before it is used for irrigation was my understanding. The gray water is tested for E coli and such.

rock_fish

I always Called gray water the stuff that comes out of your washing machine
Is guess it's the same?

pottydoc

Grey water is water from stuff other than toilets. Usually it means the kitchen sink and shower/bathtub. It is not piped separately to a municipal sewage treatment system. The reclaimed stuff is treated water from a sewage plant.

rock_fish

pottydoc wrote: »

Grey water is water from stuff other than toilets. Usually it means the kitchen sink and shower/bathtub. It is not piped separately to a municipal sewage treatment system. The reclaimed stuff is treated water from a sewage plant.

That's what I figured

CaptTater

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