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markw4321
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Congressional poll -sector separation
markw4321
Senior MemberPosts: 171 Officer
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Despite healthy fish populations, 2014 had the shortest Gulf of Mexico red snapper recreational fishing season in history. The Gulf of Mexico Fisheries Management Council is currently considering a proposal to split the recreational sector between charter (for-hire) and private recreational anglers as a solution. Please select where you fall under this issue:Click on link below and the poll is on right side of page.
http://www.sportsmenslink.org/caucuses/congressional/
Despite healthy fish populations, 2014 had the shortest Gulf of Mexico red snapper recreational fishing season in history. The Gulf of Mexico Fisheries Management Council is currently considering a proposal to split the recreational sector between charter (for-hire) and private recreational anglers as a solution. Please select where you fall under this issue:Click on link below and the poll is on right side of page.
http://www.sportsmenslink.org/caucuses/congressional/
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Yes they sent a letter from the Caucus to the GMFMC urging them not to pass amendment 40, but it got passed anyway.
What else is new?
kind of the point. The people do not want this.
- I live in a Gulf state and support this proposal (7.50%)
- I live in a Gulf state and do not support this proposal (79.62%)
- I do not live in a Gulf state, but support this proposal (1.92%)
- I do not live in a Gulf state and do not support this proposal (8.65%)
- I am unfamiliar with this issue, or have no opinion of the proposal (2.31%)
That's pretty telling just how bad of an idea AM 40 really is.
What Congress actually does about reauthorizing Magnuson-Stevens next year will be pretty telling of about how much they really care.
But all the incumbents sitting on these councils and taking these polls and writing these cute little letters are betting on the fact we will have reelected them by then. Shame on us if we do, we deserve what we get.
A Council decision shall be considered to have a significant and predictable effect on a financial interest if there is a close causal link between the Council decision and an expected and substantially disproportionate benefit to the financial interest of the affected individual relative to the financial interests of other participants in the same gear type or sector of the fishery”
When it comes to "expected and substantially disproportionate benefit" 50 CFR 600.235(c). Paragraph (c)(3) states:
(3) “Expected and substantially disproportionate benefit” means a quantifiable positive or negative impact with regard to a matter likely to affect a fishery or sector of the fishery in which the affected individual has a significant interest, as indicated by:
(i) A greater than 10-percent interest in the total harvest of the fishery or sector of the fishery in question;
(ii) A greater than 10-percent interest in the marketing or processing of the total harvest of the fishery or sector of the fishery in question; or
(iii) Full or partial ownership of more than 10 percent of the vessels using the same gear type within the fishery or sector of the fishery in question."
Does any one of you know one single person or entity that meets the above criteria - specifically, one that has; (i) greater than 10% interest in the total harvest of the fishery or sector of the fishery in question, (ii) a greater than 10-percent interest in the marketing or processing of the total harvest of the fishery or sector of the fishery in question; or (iii) Full or partial ownership of more than 10 percent of the vessels using the same gear type within the fishery or sector of the fishery in question"?
I would like to see one person or entity that can meet that standard. The standard has been set so high that ABSOLUTELY NOBODY can possibly meet that standard - the net result being a wide open scenario where any Gulf Council member can do whatever they want and not even have the slightest worry about violating the very basic tenets of Conflict of Interest Standards.
Anyone? Please post up if you know of any person or entity that could possibly meet such standards.
Looks to me that the very basic tenets of conflict of interest standards have been stripped bare here at the Gulf Council level to allow activities that would be considered conflict of interest in virtually any other arena.
Tom Hilton
I think there are some IFQs in the northeast and northwest, where one person or corporation owns more than 10% of the total fishery. In some, dealers own the IFQ, so they not only own the harvest, they own the wholesale.
I know the Gulf red snapper cap is 6%. I think some of the grouper-tilefish caps (for specific sub-groups) might be more than 10%, but I'm not sure about that either.
You should take some
AND
The point being is that NOBODY owns 10% of a fishing industry - you claim you know some that do - post it up or shut up. Enough of your unsubstantiated claims from an anonymous wannabe. They gutted the intent of the Conflict of Interest - why even have it if it's impossible to violate?
You nailed it - the Gulf of Mexico Red Snapper fishery isn't even on the chart when it comes to the importance of fisheries to the nation - what is it? 1/10th of 1%? The Gulf commercial red snapper industry is simply not that important - it's not even registering on the scale at the national scene.
Calling people whiners before the game has ended is typical of a loser - it ain't over until it's over. I would be surprised if there isn't significant jail time for some involved here, as the wheels are in motion.....
WOW
How did tom hilton edit bubbaII post?
(ii) A greater than 10-percent interest in the marketing or processing of the total harvest of the fishery or sector of the fishery in question; or
I believe He handles he handles more than 10% of the King Mackerel fishery in the gulf.
So that is another possibility of a conflict.
You need to get over this and use the all the energy your wasting whining and try to come up with a viable solution in private sector.
Making unsubstantiated claims of corruption and challenging people to come up with how the conflict of interest standards can be applied without doing any research about our nations, the southeast and even the gulf fisheries is childish.
One definition of whining is acting childish.
So which one of these guys are you?
http://www.hookedondestin.com/destinfishingboats.html
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None of them !!!!!!
I think your OBSESSION with my identity is pathetic and probably unhealthy. You should get some psychiatric help with your OBSESSION or at least hire a private investigator so you can come up with a more credible assumption of my identity.
"Well Gary, the easiest way to look tall is to stand in a room full of short people." - Curtis Bostick
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Pinocchio - Coleccchio are you guys related ?
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NO and NO !
"Well Gary, the easiest way to look tall is to stand in a room full of short people." - Curtis Bostick
"All these forums, with barely any activity, are like a neglected old cemetery that no one visits anymore."- anonymouse
Gary Pinocchio is that your new avatar ?
"Well Gary, the easiest way to look tall is to stand in a room full of short people." - Curtis Bostick
"All these forums, with barely any activity, are like a neglected old cemetery that no one visits anymore."- anonymouse
Desperate false allegations! The true sign of a small obsessed man.
How in hades is Bubba II Tom Hilton and vice versa. Has this forum stooped so low as to the mods and "special long time members" posting under many personas and alter egos, just to try and keep the clicks coming in and the site alive. Did someone forget momentarily who they had logged on as this time.:huh
If so, that is disgusting and such a waste of peoples time that might legitimately be trying to follow the fisheries management issues.
I would expect such nonsense in off topic or politics, but not here.
Someone should at least step up and explain or I see no more credibility here at all and **** sure wouldn't donate money through anyone soliciting here.
THIS IS THE POST I AM QUESTIONING??????
Yup something fishy is going on, and I'm getting grief for wanting to keep my identity to my self. I think some of these moderators need explain how that happened.
I am not the one lying, nor desperate nor deceitful, which by every indication you are.
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