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sleepwalkersleepwalker Posts: 101 Deckhand
Howdy,

I’m running over Friday a.m. We are probably staying at BBGC, so the ladies can hang at the pool, etc. I’ll probably be able to sneak a few hours in on Saturday a.m. high speeding. Any reports of Wahoo yet? I remember that it kicked in early in October last season.

We have a small cold front rolling in on Saturday, but I’ll be headed back to MIA by 3 pm. Aside from it being a bit bumpy with the predicted west wind on Saturday, how is that wind direction generally for the bite? I’d guess that bumping up against an outgoing tide, the line should be pretty good.

Not wasting time going too far North or South, but will simply work the are between Cat and South Bimini. Seems that I'm as lucky there as anywhere else. Thoughts?

I’ll let you know now it goes.

Kent
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  • Lucky7Team2Lucky7Team2 Posts: 6,794 Officer
    Haven't heard any reports yet...
  • Bimini DreamBimini Dream Posts: 407 Deckhand
    I couldn't fish, ruptured my pectoris from the bone and Linda wouldn't let me step foot on a boat. Some good friends of mine had a great trip. 7 nice wahoo caught smallest 30lbs up to 50lbs. All the fish were caught south of round rock. I believe this was last friday. We all had a great wahoo dinner Sunday.
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  • sleepwalkersleepwalker Posts: 101 Deckhand
    I couldn't fish, ruptured my pectoris from the bone and Linda wouldn't let me step foot on a boat. Some good friends of mine had a great trip. 7 nice wahoo caught smallest 30lbs up to 50lbs. All the fish were caught south of round rock. I believe this was last friday. We all had a great wahoo dinner Sunday.

    Nice. Tomorrow it is then!
  • dpdashdpdash Posts: 5,359 Admiral
    its not too early, post up your results please
  • FWCSnookFWCSnook Posts: 886 Officer
    Good friend did a quick trip last weekend and got two nice ones.
  • alacrityalacrity Posts: 2,666 Captain
    I couldn't fish, ruptured my pectoris from the bone and Linda wouldn't let me step foot on a boat. Some good friends of mine had a great trip. 7 nice wahoo caught smallest 30lbs up to 50lbs. All the fish were caught south of round rock. I believe this was last friday. We all had a great wahoo dinner Sunday.

    wow, that's unfortunate. how long is the recovery?


  • Bimini DreamBimini Dream Posts: 407 Deckhand
    alacrity wrote: »
    wow, that's unfortunate. how long is the recovery?
    Very rare injury and of course it had to happened to me. Surgery Monday but the worse part is 6 months of recovery time. Muscle and tendons take much longer than bone to heal. Somehow I have to be patient through the entire process or I can rupture it again.
    Linda tells me to act my age but that is just not in my playbook. :)
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  • nuevowavonuevowavo Posts: 6,820 Admin
    Aside from it being a bit bumpy with the predicted west wind on Saturday, how is that wind direction generally for the bite? I’d guess that bumping up against an outgoing tide, the line should be pretty good.

    Never noticed any particular advantage or disadvantage in wind direction for the wahoo bite in the Bahamas, and even the best tide to fish on is debatable. Good luck and be safe - looking forward to your report.
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  • SlipkidSlipkid Posts: 241 Officer
    Looking forward to a report as well. We are heading over Thursday. I'm still up in the air on destination. The way its going I'll probably decide as we are leaving the inlet...
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  • dpdashdpdash Posts: 5,359 Admiral
    It's not too early, I'm sure there are enough to make it worthwhile:wink
  • Angler_2600Angler_2600 Posts: 1,106 Officer
    They are there, fish the tides, Buddy caught 6 yesterday off the isaacs
  • sleepwalkersleepwalker Posts: 101 Deckhand
    Ok, so here is the report…

    Got a late start to Bimini on Friday. Left the dock around noon with wife, mom, and mom's best friend in from Colorado. Needless to say, I wouldn't get a ton of fishing in.

    The seas were less than 1 ft. on the way to Bimini. We ran into tons of great weed lines and I stopped to troll a few. Didn't manage to pick up anything.

    We cleared customs around 3 pm, and I headed back out solo for a few runs to the south. I only had a limited amount of time, basically enough to run most of the way down to Gun Gay and back. It was the top of the tide and the rip was perfectly set up in around 160 +-. Tons of bait in the water and it seemed like things were lining up. I put in about 35 mins on the down and back, but no hits to show for it. I'm sure that if I had more time spend, I could have picked up something.

    I hit the dock at Big Game, and did the walk to the cleaning tables. No Wahoo around, but one boat picked up some very nice Phin's on the way over. He said that they stopped to investigate two Marlin that they saw tailing, so they put out a spread. No Marlin, but they got covered up by 20-35 lb. Phins. I think they kept 7 and moved on. The Bulls were all over the cleaning station for sure. That's usually the sign of Wahoo to come!

    It was generally pretty quiet on the island, but Big Game only had 2 rooms left due to a huge movie shoot going on. I talked to quite a few boats, with only 1 having caught any Wahoo the previous day (2 fish). The dock masters haven't seen many fish either.

    We rented a cart and headed down to Stuarts Conch shack for a bite. It was packed with locals and tons of workers from Bimini Bay. Let's say that Stuarts is really cashing in on the Big Red boat. I'd guess that he did close to 4K in beers and salad on Friday. I'm sure his rent is cheap, and he keeps this staffing pretty sparse. Good on him!

    After Conch we headed back to Big Game for more of a dinner. I was bummed to see the Mike was no longer the GM at Big Game. He seemed to really have some good ideas and the place improved under him. I see that the service is already starting to suffer a bit. We had an issue with AC, and I went down 2X and called… they said that someone was coming up… never did. I'm sure they can turn things around again, but I’d just recommend making sure that everyone there works as professionally as the Big Game Dock Masters always seem to. They always have the best crew on the dock!

    As an aside, we cleared at Big Game. I was the only one clearing and there were at least 6-7 agents in the office. I'd say that my agent was one of the slowest / worst ever. I swear the guy fell asleep 3X during the process. He was sitting there just looking at his pen for over a minute sometimes. I had all paperwork pre-filled before I even left Miami… I'm glad I did or the process would have kept me off the water. I had 4 including myself on the boat (32 ft). I asked how much, and he held 2 fingers up ($200), trying to be quiet. Knowing how much it was supposed to be I said that I think he had it wrong, and then he did a quick calculation in his head (about a minute) and said $170. I have him $180 and then he took a full 15 minutes wandering around the office, making copies, etc. He then came back with a $10 that was folded about 30 times to the size of a square a little larger than a centimeter… strange.

    After customs, I had hoped that as in the past, immigration was also at Big Game. Nope, still at the police department. I'll say that the young lady working immigration was very efficient and totally pleasant to work with. In and out in 3 minutes. I know that they have less paperwork, but it's really the attitude that was working for her. It always shocks me how bad customs can be, when these people are really the first face you generally see in the Bahamas. The tourism people should really help to provide some training…

    While I'm at it… the best customs offices ever…
    * I had good experiences at West End…
    * The airport at Great Exuma was outstanding
    * I have had very nice experiences at Great Harbor airport. The marina is more difficult as the agents have to drive to you…
    * One of the best was the airport at Treasure Cay. Super nice and efficient. Smiles all around.
    * Cat Island.. Airport was fantastic. About 4 minutes to a cold Kalik!

    So… after dinner, I actually headed down to the casino at Bimini Bay. In generally, I stay away from this place like the plague… but I wanted to check it out. I hate to admit it, but the casino was actually much nicer than I had expected. There weren't many people when I was there, but it started to fill around 10 pm. I hit a $25 Black Jack table (I think it was the lowest limit). I stayed for around 35 minutes and took home an extra $450 for my time. Stoked!

    Decided to take off around 11 on Saturday. We wanted to swim in the river around the corner of North, North Bimini. I headed out to the edge and put out 2 Islanders. Zipped the edge at 13 knots. The sea was totally alive with bait and flying fish. Everything looked right while trolling to the North, just along the western side of North Bimini.

    Driving from the top deck, I saw a nice 30 lb.+ phin cruising. I dropped down to around 10 knots by the time my lures passed, but nothing… I quickly went down to swap one of the islanders for a smaller jet rigged with mono. I went back to the corner of the rip that seemed to hold most of the life, but it resulted in a zero.

    As time was on my mind, we headed east around the north corner of Bimini. We waded in and relaxed in the river for an hour. It would be tragic to have this area destroyed by another needless golf course… I sincerely hope that this doesn't happen.

    Time to hit the road. The winds were starting to kick at 10-15 from the west. I hit some very nice week patches 18 miles out of Bimini. I picked up 2 small phins trolling by. No big guys on top, so I dropped a metal jig. I hooked up from the tower, and pulled up a 16 inch Wehoo… quickly removed the hook and let him swim to catch another day.

    Sorry guys, that's it for this trip. I may head back over next weekend for a full-on wahoo and spear trip. Probably anchoring around Brown's and staying on the hook. I'll let you know.

    Kent

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  • tango34tango34 Posts: 106 Officer
    Thanks for the report. Doesn't sound like the wahoo bite is in full swing yet but getting there.

    Just an FYI I have always been told it is illegal to fish during the cross, headed over or back. Not positive on this but, I've heard it enough I try to abide. Maybe someone else will chime in on this.
    34 Ryco "Tango"
  • Bimini DreamBimini Dream Posts: 407 Deckhand
    tango34 wrote: »
    Thanks for the report. Doesn't sound like the wahoo bite is in full swing yet but getting there.

    Just an FYI I have always been told it is illegal to fish during the cross, headed over or back. Not positive on this but, I've heard it enough I try to abide. Maybe someone else will chime in on this.
    You sir are correct about not fishing on the crossing to the Bahamas. Thanks for abiding by the Bahamian laws as well we all should. You are also correct on the wahoo bite but there are some nice fish already being caught right out front and just to the south.
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  • SlipkidSlipkid Posts: 241 Officer
    Shouldn't fish on the way over but I see no reason you can't fish on the way back if you have both Bahamian and US licenses???

    Sounds like the Bimini customs guy was looking to be greased. Nice...
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  • tango34tango34 Posts: 106 Officer
    Slipkid wrote: »
    Shouldn't fish on the way over but I see no reason you can't fish on the way back if you have both Bahamian and US licenses???

    Sounds like the Bimini customs guy was looking to be greased. Nice...

    Thanks guys. Like I said I wasn't sure but knew fishing on the way over was not allowed. Guess coming home you are covered in both waters so you should be fine. Again thanks for the report
    34 Ryco "Tango"
  • Serenity NowSerenity Now Posts: 440 Deckhand
    I am VERY new to this other side game but have been reading a lot of information. From one article I read it has to do with a "preponderance of the evidence" (yes I am in some type of law enforcement). The reason for no fishing on the way back is if you have the Bahamian limits versus our catch limits. One could argue the amount of time to return would not allow for such a catch. There are many holes to this theory (there is no way to time stamp when you leave their waters) but it is an argument nonetheless. The counter argument is someone who is not in Bahamian waters filling his cooler with the Bahamian limits. As with almost any law there is room for interpretation, this the reason for no set answers on the whole limits thing from one agency to another. I will stop on the return but just for a short time and only if something looks really productive and won't put me over the US limit. If I am Bahamian limited on any species I won't do it.

    Not so much of an answer......just another post really.
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  • SlipkidSlipkid Posts: 241 Officer
    I definitely wouldn't come in over limit but I never seem to come in with that many fish anyway. We typically catch enough to eat then quit and go have happy hour. :dance
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  • nuevowavonuevowavo Posts: 6,820 Admin
    To clarify, if you are in Bahamian waters with caught fish on board and do not have a Bahamas fishing license (since you haven't cleared yet), that is illegal.
    On the way back, once you are in U.S. waters, Federal and state regs apply, so for example if you have lobsters on board out of the Florida season, or you have Nassau grouper, even during the Bahamas open season for them, you are in violation.
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  • dpdashdpdash Posts: 5,359 Admiral
    Great report! You had a better weekend than I did, worked all day Saturday and skiff broke down Sunday
  • TB421TB421 Posts: 271 Officer
    A friend went over on Friday and scored a nice hoo near North Rock. That was the only bite though.
  • sleepwalkersleepwalker Posts: 101 Deckhand
    I'll always fish on the way back. I just stay within US limits, so I'd hope that there would be much of a problem. Each to their own I guess.

    On the way over is entirely different. It's just not worth it to me. Clear first, and hit the water guilt free. The truth is that I generally do a bit more spearing than fishing most of the time, and therefore I prefer to get over as quick as possible to clear and then put some water time in.

    I know that most guys will fish on the way over, and personally I could care less. I hate to see people keeping small reef fish and **** the bottom, but I don't put some guy that caught a few dolphin on the way to Bimini in the same category. That's just my opinion.

    PS. I understand that the Bahamas instituted a new size limit for Hogfish. I think it is now 18 inches, but I can't find any info on this. If this is the case, this is a move in a very positive direction!

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    It never hurts bring a few extra toys along…


    Now back to fishing…

    I recently purchased a new rife composite pole spear with a slip tip. I’m normally a slinger, but the nice thing about pole spears is that you can attach a float line and buoy. This really opens the door for pelagic spearing. I'm pretty determined to spend some time this winter taking a shot at some Wahoo with the pole. I've seen quite a few guys spearing Hoos over flashers and chum in Baja. While I wouldn't do much chumming in the Bahamas, I'd make the most out of flashers.

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    Rocking n’ Rolling… it’s Wahoo season!

    I'm not sure of the best places to do a few drifts, but the wall just west of Cat is going to be my likely first starting place. I like the drop there, and the visibility is generally pretty good. I'd guess that you could even slow troll a few divers along with some deep weighted flashers until you find the fish. Put it in neutral, jig the flashers, and see how close you can get. Maybe even toss in a few live baits….


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    The Bulls are back in town…


    I’d prefer to keep the depth to less than 120 ft if possible. The spot that I'm talking about fits the bill pretty well. There is a series of drops that go from 40-55, 55-70, and then 70-100+. On good days you can see the bottom. Many times I've looked down on the 70 spot to see huge blacks swarming on the bottom, and kings and macks in the middle of the water column. Wahoo seem to be pretty curious, as I've come close to shooting them in the open water of the stream under debris. I'm sure that with some time, I could get to within 6-7 ft. for a good shot. Fingers crossed.

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    Big Game, still the best.

    In any case, the conditions are looking a bit “sporty” for the coming weekend. It looks like an outside shot at a day trip on Sunday if it calms down a bit. Get over, clear by 9:30, and high speed it toward Beach Cay… Mmmmm…..


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    Mmmm… Stuarts Conch Shack! Fresh Stuff for sure!!!


    Here is to hoping for a little more of this on the next trip… A recycle from 2 seasons ago, I think.


    Hopefully the next report will have some new action with big fish in the box!



    Kent
  • alacrityalacrity Posts: 2,666 Captain
    nice report and thanks for posting it.


  • heatzheatz Posts: 104 Officer
    I'll always fish on the way back. I just stay within US limits, so I'd hope that there would be much of a problem. Each to their own I guess.
    Kent

    We spear over there too and bring filleted hog and grouper back to the US. According to the link, bringing back fillets is only OK if you don't fish in the EEZ on the way home. Up to the captain to **** the risk of not following the law. Interested in hearing about the hog size limit...


    http://myfwc.com/fishing/saltwater/recreational/bahamas/

    50 CFR 622.186(b)In the South Atlantic EEZ, snapper-grouper lawfully harvested in Bahamian waters are exempt from the requirement that they be maintained with head and fins intact, provided valid Bahamian fishing and cruising permits are on board the vessel and the vessel is in transit through the South Atlantic EEZ. For the purpose of this paragraph, a vessel is in transit through the South Atlantic EEZ when it is on a direct and continuous course through the South Atlantic EEZ and no one aboard the vessel fishes in the EEZ.
  • Capt KurtCapt Kurt Posts: 410 Deckhand
    nuevowavo wrote: »
    Never noticed any particular advantage or disadvantage in wind direction for the wahoo bite in the Bahamas, and even the best tide to fish on is debatable. Good luck and be safe - looking forward to your report.

    I've fished twice on solid West winds. Once off Bimini/Cat Cay and the other time off West End. Both times we were constantly clearing weeds off our lures and it wasn't fun.
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  • Serenity NowSerenity Now Posts: 440 Deckhand
    SLEEPWALKER:
    PLEASE write a report on how you do with the Spear. That is something I am VERY interested in trying. Have my spear "sort of set up for this also. One thing I was going to do is make the float line from bungee instead so the initial run does not jerk the tip out. Just a thought. Slip tip, to bungee, to fender/float. As far as your spear, the videos I watched use at least a 10' or more. Wahoo are curious but still cautious. Just rememebr to also have your spear attached to you by a leash. Friend and I did open water spearing for dolphin and my friend dropped his spear (a cheapo) because he was to used to using the sling method.

    Good luck.
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  • Serenity NowSerenity Now Posts: 440 Deckhand
    HEATZ:

    Agreed, just didn't want to get into a discussion the other night. As you see in each category it says you can't except unless in continuos transit. And ALL legally obtained snapper/grouper. The lobster one seems to leave out the 622 clause tho. Again to each their own interpretation.
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  • sleepwalkersleepwalker Posts: 101 Deckhand
    The pole spear float and line is exactly the same as you would use on a gun in deep water. No need for bungie, etc., as once you connect with the fish, you simply allow the line to side though your hands with a limited amount of pressure. If you gauge that the shot might not hold, simply allow the line to rely on the float for support. As a larger fish pull, the float will sometimes submerge a bit, or rip along the top of the water. You can either be in tow, or swim to retrieve the float once the run has slowed.

    There are various clips that can be used to fight the fish to the top, with the diver pulling the float line though the clip when gaining line, but the clip holding firm during change overs, etc. You can go with a nice line like the riffe float line, or simply use a high visibility nylon line (like ski rope) tied off to either an inflatable buoy., or similar solid float. Ideally your float will have a dive flag attached.

    You can attach your float line to directly to the rubber shock cord that powers you pole spear. This allows for unimpeded use of the pole spear, but also allows you to let go if needed.


    One thing is for sure… spearing in deep water can be dangerous. Getting caught in float lines, etc. is a real possibility and dive buddies are a must. Be careful

    Let me know how it goes, and I'll do the same.

    Kent
  • Lucky7Team2Lucky7Team2 Posts: 6,794 Officer
    Not to mention the sharks...
  • sleepwalkersleepwalker Posts: 101 Deckhand
    I'm taking another shot at it this weekend. Heading out from the Grove at 6:45 a.m., and clearing customs by 9 if crossing conditions are as predicted.

    Bringing my wife and her friends. Dropping them off at the BG pool, and hitting the edge. Going to head North first, dropping lines on the edge just in front of the Bimini Channel. I won't go farther than a mile or 2 north, of North Rock, unless we are crushing it. If I'm not hoooked up by then, I'm ripping the edge all the way down toward Orange until I hook up. Then pick up the girls and home by 7:30 to watch the Noles dismantle the Notre Dame!

    I agree with most that the fishing just in front of Bimini is usually as good as anywhere else. More often than not, I've caught more fish pulling in to Bimini than I have caught up at GI. It really just comes down the good water and bait I guess.

    Anyone else heading over Saturday?
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