Pinellas county schools purchased 28 M-16s

Cyclist

****?

This person NEEDS to go back to school.
"Our police officers are in our schools to help further the education of our students and make it safe for them to do so," Stelljes said. "This is just one more way to do it."

http://www.tampabay.com/news/education/k12/report-military-surplus-program-sent-assault-rifles-to-pinellas-schools/2198067

team getterdun

I know, right! They should have purchased m14's instead... Why they went with the .223 over the .308 is astounding.

mikev

When was the last time you were in a school Peter?

knotty boys

team getterdun wrote: »

I know, right! They should have purchased m14's instead... Why they went with the .223 over the .308 is astounding.

cost savings on ammo. They were thinking of our best interests

Cyclist

Well at least the idiots didn't buy grenade launchers like these morons did.

School police say they will return military-provided grenade launchers.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/09/19/schools-say-they-will-return-military-provided-grenade-launchers/

duckmanJR

team getterdun wrote: »

I know, right! They should have purchased m14's instead... Why they went with the .223 over the .308 is astounding.

The .223 is a better round for wounding the little hoodlems....the .308 would kill them and then we would never know the joy of supporting them for their life in prison.

TripleX

24% of "Active Shooter" events occur at educational institutions (Schools). Majority of those events involed the coward entering schools with a "long gun" to massacre students/staff. It only makes logical sense to equip our first responders, especially those located at the educational institutions, with "long guns".

Cyclist

TripleX wrote: »

24% of "Active Shooter" events occur at educational institutions (Schools). Majority of those events involed the coward entering schools with a "long gun" to massacre students/staff. It only makes logical sense to equip our first responders, especially those located at the educational institutions, with "long guns".

I can understand dealing with the symptoms of a problem, but when is the US going to deal with the actual problem. Mental illness. We don't hesitate to spend on guns and gunners because we are a violent hurtful society but at some point we have to spend money on the actual problems.

Triple Threat 33T

I agree with TripleX

Hey are there any differences between an AR 15 and an M 16?

Triple Threat 33T

Cyclist wrote: »

I can understand dealing with the symptoms of a problem, but when is the US going to deal with the actual problem. Mental illness. We don't hesitate to spend on guns and gunners because we are a violent hurtful society but at some point we have to spend money on the actual problems.

I say we do both Pete.

What are some of your specific thoughts on how we should deal with actual problem which is mental illness?

Team Sabatage

Triple Threat 33T wrote: »

I agree with TripleX

Hey are there any differences between an AR 15 and an M 16?

Yes, the Times cites one and the Post cites the other.

Cyclist

Triple Threat 33T wrote: »

I say we do both Pete.

What are some of your specific thoughts on how we should deal with actual problem which is mental illness?

For start, mental illness is an illness, not a criminal offense. Don't put them in jail, makes things worse. Treat the illness with the goal of making the person a contributing member of society.

Triple Threat 33T

Cyclist wrote: »

For start, mental illness is an illness, not a criminal offense. Don't put them in jail, makes things worse. Treat the illness with the goal of making the person a contributing member of society.

OK, agreed but when people are mentally ill, sometimes you have to separate them from society until they're well.

What are some other ways we can address the real issues and at the same time protect our kids and faculty?

rock_fish

Gibb Hi skoo needa thosr rifles, fo sho

Catch 22

My military issues M-16A1 was great weapon. I was happy to have the M203 grenade launcher on it. They are a most effective weapon....:machinegun

Cyclist

Triple Threat 33T wrote: »

OK, agreed but when people are mentally ill, sometimes you have to separate them from society until they're well.

What are some other ways we can address the real issues and at the same time protect our kids and faculty?

The opposite of this?
http://www.povertyinsights.org/2013/10/14/did-reagans-crazy-mental-health-policies-cause-todays-homelessness/

Catch 22

Cyclist wrote: »

I can understand dealing with the symptoms of a problem, but when is the US going to deal with the actual problem. Mental illness. We don't hesitate to spend on guns and gunners because we are a violent hurtful society but at some point we have to spend money on the actual problems.

Why don't you volunteer as a study patient for them...:wink

Triple Threat 33T

Cyclist wrote: »

The opposite of this?
http://www.povertyinsights.org/2013/10/14/did-reagans-crazy-mental-health-policies-cause-todays-homelessness/

Nope, don't give me that cut and paste nonsense.

I want to hear, in your own words, specifically what you would do and how you would do it.

duckmanJR

TripleX wrote: »

24% of "Active Shooter" events occur at educational institutions (Schools). Majority of those events involed the coward entering schools with a "long gun" to massacre students/staff. It only makes logical sense to equip our first responders, especially those located at the educational institutions, with "long guns".

Please stop interjecting common sense...we are in the middle of a mindless rant....

coldair

first, they were given the M16s
second, change a 12 dollar fire control group and you have a semi auto rifle
third, most of the mental health issues in our country is due to the use of marijuana at an early age

rock_fish

coldair wrote: »

first, they were given the M16s
second, change a 12 fire control group and you have a semi auto rifle
third, most of the mental health issues in our country is due to the use of marijuana at an early age

A little too hard, mate

Throttle back next time

Triple Threat 33T

Triple Threat 33T wrote: »

Nope, don't give me that cut and paste nonsense.

I want to hear, in your own words, specifically what you would do and how you would do it.

:crickets:

TripleX

Cyclist wrote: »

I can understand dealing with the symptoms of a problem, but when is the US going to deal with the actual problem. Mental illness. We don't hesitate to spend on guns and gunners because we are a violent hurtful society but at some point we have to spend money on the actual problems.

Can you point me to the next coward who is planning to enter a school and execute innocent youth before it happens? Sadly you nor I can, yet there is some POS planning it right now!

I agree with you that we have several members in society with mental health issues. I've seen and dealt with them first hand. However, there is currently, 318,997,4XX people in the US. Where do we begin with mental health evaluations?

With that said, we must do everything we can to protect our youth and if that means equipping our SRO's with long guns or instructing teachers on safe methods of conceal carry while in our schools, I say what are we waiting for. Like JohnnyB pointed out, these cowards choose schools because they know they are less likely to encounter an armed person in that arena. Level the playing field for our first responders and give our teachers a fighting chance!!!

Machine Head

Then when the Schools are secure they move on to bus stops, restaurants, churches, stores etc....
CC is the only way.

Triple Threat 33T

TripleX wrote: »

Can you point me to the next coward who is planning to enter a school and execute innocent youth before it happens? Sadly you nor I can, yet there is some POS planning it right now!

I agree with you that we have several members in society with mental health issues. I've seen and dealt with them first hand. However, there is currently, 318,997,4XX people in the US. Where do we begin with mental health evaluations?

With that said, we must do everything we can to protect our youth and if that means equipping our SRO's with long guns or instructing teachers on safe methods of conceal carry while in our schools, I say what are we waiting for. Like JohnnyB pointed out, these cowards choose schools because they know they are less likely to encounter an armed person in that arena. Level the playing field for our first responders and give our teachers a fighting chance!!!

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CaptTater

Cyclist wrote: »

I can understand dealing with the symptoms of a problem, but when is the US going to deal with the actual problem. Mental illness. We don't hesitate to spend on guns and gunners because we are a violent hurtful society but at some point we have to spend money on the actual problems.

I agree.. open up large scale institutions. There was a 60 minutes I think it was a few weeks ago about parents who couldn't keep their kids locked up. Sometimes there is no mediation to talking to them that can stop them.
Of course the lib sissies think it's cruel to lock up the ill so they get a few hours in the ER, a day or 3 of supervision and come out hating the world.

CaptTater

oh and they are preparing for muslims and illegal alien redistribution. Got to shoot em fast before they can cut the victim's heads off.

Chuckc

Triple Threat 33T wrote: »

I agree with TripleX

Hey are there any differences between an AR 15 and an M 16?

If this is a real question the answer lies in the trigger group. AR-15 fires once per trigger pull, think of the old Remington 742 or Ruger 10-22. The M-16 is a select fire automatic weapon which can operate as a semi-auto or fully auto weapon.

Schmidty

Wow.....

....full auto in schools....

I really don't know what to say other than ...Eeeeeehhhhaaaaaaaaaawwww!

"Full Auto" weapons were designed for fire power superiority.....in other words..."You fire one bullet at me and I shoot a thousand at you".

The more bullets you pump out...the greater the chances are that you'll hit your target...

I most definitely don't have a problem with long guns in the hands of leo...

As a matter of fact I believe that all units should have a high powered rifle .....not a full auto.... maybe not even a semi-auto...but a high powered rifle none the less....

"M-16's" are for combat......the full auto feature is for multiple targets at close range where maximum carnage is to be expected...In a school with kids?.......not a chance....

Train the teachers and arm them........give the school cops a gauge with slugs..... and lots of training...

Fish Haid

Well, since pot will be legal soon, we need to get prepared because there will be a big increase in violence from drugged-out teenagers.

Cyclist

CaptTater wrote: »

I agree.. open up large scale institutions. There was a 60 minutes I think it was a few weeks ago about parents who couldn't keep their kids locked up. Sometimes there is no mediation to talking to them that can stop them.
Of course the lib sissies think it's cruel to lock up the ill so they get a few hours in the ER, a day or 3 of supervision and come out hating the world.

It was your savior ronny raygun that eliminated the institutions and threw mentally ill people into the streets.