Gators, Driskel, and Muschamp

Resinhead

nick wrote: »

I hope we get crushed, again.

FIFY

GrillaG

Doing the same thing and expecting different results is the definition of insanity
They should play 2 quarterbacks until the backup is ready to takeover
Driskell has very poor pocket awareness and should be replaced
Muschamp is in over his head for sure, should have got some head coaching experience at some smaller schools first

on_the_rocks

nick wrote: »

I hope we get crushed....

What's up ****.

:beer

ZimmerNole

nick wrote: »

I hope we get crushed....

So that Muschamp gets canned?

Jeez, this reminds me almost of our Jeff Bowden situation :wink

Bad behavior

I honestly think it's asinine that Muschamp says he will not play Harris at all. Won't even give him any snaps. To me that's BS. You've got talent, use it, you hard headed bastid!! Hopefully he's just keeping his gameplan under his sleeve and not being the hard headed mule I've often read him to be.

Larry Mac

Bad behavior wrote: »

I honestly think it's asinine that Muschamp says he will not play Harris at all. Won't even give him any snaps. To me that's BS. You've got talent, use it, you hard headed bastid!! Hopefully he's just keeping his gameplan under his sleeve and not being the hard headed mule I've often read him to be.

In Roper's press conference today, he said Harris understanding of the offense is not where it needs to be. That when he goes in, we're going to ask him to do things he's mentally prepared for. So it sounds like he's not ready to run the entire offense , but he still can run a limited number of plays. Maybe he plays some series this week?
If he still doesn't know the offense by now , that makes me wonder.
That alone could be why they haven't made the change. But he did say when the time comes for Driskel to be replaced , it will be Muschamp's call.
But he said right now they have 100% confidence that Driskel gives them the best chance to win.
I still think Harris gets in a couple series at least-- maybe more if he's successful. Because he said, that WHEN he goes in, we're going to ask him to do things he's mentally prepared for. To me, that sounds like Treon packages.

ZimmerNole

A limited playbook for a superior athlete (and arm) is better than a full playbook ran by an inept QB.

Larry Mac

ZimmerNole wrote: »

A limited playbook for a superior athlete (and arm) is better than a full playbook ran by an inept QB.

I believe our best bet now is both QB's.
I think Treon may have instant temporary success like Murphy did last year, but with limited plays the SEC coordinators will figure him out.

2amigo

ZimmerNole wrote: »

A limited playbook for a superior athlete (and arm) is better than a full playbook ran by an inept QB.

You are correct sir.

Baits Out

It may sound familiar but — for now — it is true. Despite a loss at Alabama the Florida Gators have all of their goals sitting in front of them, at arms length, ready for the taking.

“All the goals are still there, got a lot of football to play everything’s out in front of us,” Will Muschamp said on Monday. “Let’s go get it.

The idle week came at a great time for the Gators. Trenton Brown, D.J. Humphries and a few other Gators were nursing injuries and needed the week off to recuperate. It was also an opportunity for the wild, wild SEC East to continue playing out like an episode of Days of Our Lives.

Missouri (4-1, 1-0 SEC) took down South Carolina (3-2, 2-2 SEC), while Georgia (3-1, 1-1 SEC) squeaked by Tennessee (2-2, 0-1 SEC). Kentucky (3-1, 1-1 SEC) handled a Vanderbilt (1-4, 0-3 SEC) team that looks like it won’t win a conference game all season.

The weekend left Missouri alone atop the SEC East standings with South Carolina second and Florida, Georgia and Kentucky tied in third.

This weekend is a make or break weekend for the season.

It’s early but this is it for the Gators. Florida brings in a nine game winning streak over the Vols but those past nine teams won’t suit up and take the field this Saturday.

A win this week and Florida will carry momentum into a home contest against LSU. A loss and the fan base will grow restless, Muschamp’s seat will grow hotter and the LSU game will look like a mountain too tall to climb.

Going 1-2 in the SEC may not mathematically eliminate Florida with games against LSU, Missouri, Georgia, South Carolina and Vanderbilt still on the schedule but a loss this week would be devastating to Florida mental state and their confidence.

It’s college football so every week is a “must win” game. This week, however, there is even more meaning to those words. The winner of this game will still have all of their goals in front of them, while the loser will be sent to the SEC cellar with Vanderbilt.

Tennessee is coming off of a tightly contested game with Georgia. Butch Jones has the Vols and their fans believing. The whole, “brick by brick” mantra is picking up steam and the Volunteers have some serious playmakers this season. Freshman running back and Mr. Tennessee football as a high school senior Jalen Hurd has 72 carries for 328 yards and two scores on the season. The 6-3, 227-pound Hurd is a load to tackle and after the Gators defense wilted late in the game trying to tackle Derrick Henry two weeks ago, we’ll see what they’re made of this week.

Florida needs to limit Tennessee’s running game and make Justin Worley beat them with his arm.

On the other side of the ball, Tennessee is playing with an entire new defensive line that hasn’t been able to stop a nosebleed on the ground. The Vols are allowing 169 rushing yards a game, dead last in the SEC. Florida, despite having to play against Alabama’s No. 3 nationally ranked rush defense, is still averaging 201 rushing yards a game.

Getting both Kelvin Taylor and Matt Jones going early will be key. Neyland Stadium is sold out this week and if the Gators can get the running game going early they can keep the 102,455 paying fans on their seats and keep them from being a factor on Saturday.

Three eye-opening stats for the game

The Vols bring in the nation’s best third down defense (20.75%) against a Florida offense that has only converted on 34% of their third down chances.

Florida is tied with South Carolina as last in the SEC with just six sacks on the season. Tennessee has allowed a SEC high 12 sacks through four games.

Tennessee is the least penalized team in the SEC, averaging just four penalties for an average of 28.3 yards per game. The Gators are last in the SEC averaging 7.7 penalties for an average of 71.3 yards-per-game.

http://www.gatorcountry.com/feature/florida-gators-face-rocky-top-tipping-point/

GrillaG

keep on doing what your doing and keep on getting what ya got
pocket awareness is something that can't be taught, IMO, ya either have it or not

navigator2

ZimmerNole wrote: »

Honestly, in my humble opinion what is the benefit of playing driskel if he is gone next year? Most of y'all have already accepted the thought of a 7-5 or 8-4 season...

Why not let Harris or Grier get the important reps?

Just my .02

I really, REALLY hate when I agree with you. :mad

ZimmerNole

navigator2 wrote: »

I really, REALLY hate when I agree with you. :mad

I'm just being honest about it. Not hating on the Gata for a few minutes :wink

I even said this to my GF while watching the end of the Bama game.

It can't hurt, y'all don't have high expectations so you might as well see what the future holds.

Larry Mac

ZimmerNole wrote: »

I'm just being honest about it. Not hating on the Gata for a few minutes :wink

I even said this to my GF while watching the end of the Bama game.

It can't hurt, y'all don't have high expectations so you might as well see what the future holds.

I'm skeptical of Driskel, but with the goals still there, you don't go ALL IN on Harris IMO
until he is ready or the goals are no longer reachable . If you lose to UT and Mizzou, then all in on Harris. If you switch to Harris now, it's like you are already giving up on this year. Still hope they work him in on some series this week and believe they will.

ZimmerNole

He deserves all the Garbage time snaps at least.

I agree with you there though, if y'all lose to 2/3 UT, Mizzou or UGA then you might as well go with the freshman if y'all are at 2-3

Larry Mac

In practice at least , Roper said for every 14 snaps, Driskel gets 8 and Treon gets 6.

ZimmerNole

Larry Mac wrote: »

In practice at least , Roper said for every 14 snaps, Driskel gets 8 and Treon gets 6.

WOW! That is much higher than expected.

mullettkid wrote: »

Lord knows all Seminole fans hope Driskel keeps starting and Mustcamp doesn't get fired.

"welcome back" hope you enjoyed your five minutes

Salty Gator

We lost to a superior Alabama team. Driskel looked bad, but it was still a better team. Let's see how he does against Tenn with an extra week. Harris obviously has a live arm. It would be smart to build him a package of plays and use it in the game. The rest is on Driskel. UT and Mizzou are winable games that will go a long way in defining this season.

tunaman

Not really a gator fan but for some reason I hope Driskel makes it, seems like MAYBE he's a good kid. Not so sure about Champ

Baits Out

"The Florida Gators have won nine straight over the Tennessee Volunteers, but they're expected to have a dogfight on their hands Saturday at Neyland Stadium in Knoxville (12 p.m. ET, SEC Network). In fact, if the line holds, this will be just the second time in ten years that Florida is an underdog against Tennessee.

. . . ."


http://linemakers.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/2014-10-01/florida-tennessee-line-pick-point-spread-betting-odds-total-vegas-week-6-ncaaf

ZimmerNole

Salty Gator wrote: »

We lost to a superior Alabama team. Driskel looked bad, but it was still a better team. Let's see how he does against Tenn with an extra week. Harris obviously has a live arm. It would be smart to build him a package of plays and use it in the game. The rest is on Driskel. UT and Mizzou are winable games that will go a long way in defining this season.

Yes, Driskel looked bad but it wasn't like the the balls he was throwing were catchable...

yes, Bama was the better team and had it been solely his fault....I could see the argument.

However, not having 10 passes completed or 100 yards passing even vs a superior team is NOT good for a program such as UF. I would expect better numbers from the Southern Miss QB vs Bama.....wait a minute....


Nick Mullens 19/35 207yards 0/0 TD/INT

tunaman wrote: »

Not really a gator fan but for some reason I hope Driskel makes it, seems like MAYBE he's a good kid. Not so sure about Champ

If I were a Gator fan I'd be done with him.

Hated seeing him get hurt last year, but he has always been over hyped. Even in HS coming out as the #1 QB vs suspect competetion...

nick

Hopefully he'll jump on a table and yell "**** her right in the *****"

ZimmerNole

Nothing will happen to him if he did that, he didn't win the Heisman, he's not in the spotlight nationally etc etc etc.

The punishment that came down on Jameis is BECAUSE of his national prominance, for his good and his bad decisions.

nick

Don't ruin my hopes.

Cane Pole

ZimmerNole wrote: »

Nothing will happen to him if he did that, he didn't win the Heisman, he's not in the spotlight nationally etc etc etc.

The punishment that came down on Jameis is BECAUSE of his national prominance, for his good and his bad decisions.

Keep on preaching Rev. Sharpton.

ZimmerNole

If any other player on the FSU team does that, nobody tweets about it, nobody in the media cares, nobody runs with the story and the BOT might never even hear a peep.

Let's get real dude.

ANY player on your beloved UF or UM teams could do what Jameis did and face ZERO time lost.

2amigo

ZimmerNole wrote: »

If any other player on the FSU team does that, nobody tweets about it, nobody in the media cares, nobody runs with the story and the BOT might never even hear a peep.

Let's get real dude.

ANY player on your beloved UF or UM teams could do what Jameis did and face ZERO time lost.

Guess what dude? If Jameis did this (FHRITP) without all the other antics he has already been involved in, it would not have been news. You flip flop too much and have a short memory. Treetop used to do this

Larry Mac

ZimmerNole wrote: »

If any other player on the FSU team does that, nobody tweets about it, nobody in the media cares, nobody runs with the story and the BOT might never even hear a peep.

Let's get real dude.

ANY player on your beloved UF or UM teams could do what Jameis did and face ZERO time lost.

You are wrong Zim. Any starter on the NC team that did that publicly would have still created such a buzz , it still would have been national news and there would have been consequences-- perhaps even greater than what Jameis received.

The MelMan

ZimmerNole wrote: »

If any other player on the FSU team does that, nobody tweets about it, nobody in the media cares, nobody runs with the story and the BOT might never even hear a peep.

Let's get real dude.

ANY player on your beloved UF or UM teams could do what Jameis did and face ZERO time lost.

Exactly right. In fact I'm sure it has happened more than once already without a peep coming out about it..........

Salty Gator

Well, Driskel didn't do a table dance so back to the topic -

No argument that Driskel played poorly. UF was likely to lose the Bama game even if Driskel plays average. Give him a chance against more beatable teams. I doubt that harris is the answer unless he has picked up the play book much faster than expected.