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Dr. Bob Shipp on the American red snapper

harbisonharbison Posts: 5,468 Admiral
Dr. Bob Shipp is highly recognized as an expert of the American red snapper.
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Dr. Bob Shipp was appointed to the Gulf of Mexico Fishery Management Council in 1991, served as its chairman during 1996-1997 and again from 1999-2000, and was reappointed to the Council in 2005, and elected vice-chairman in 2007, and chairman in 2009
“Dr. Bob Shipp’s Guide to Fishes of the Gulf of Mexico” is currently in its fifth printing, and is used by the U.S. Coast Guard and National Marine Fisheries Service for field identification of fishes. He has also authored scores of scientific as well as popular papers and articles.
What does Dr. Shipp think of the way the red snapper fishery is being handled? How about sector-separation?
"It's probably the worst-managed fishery in the United states. What's the good of having all these stocks if nobody can use them?"
The snapper stocks are stronger than they've ever been in history. It's probably the worst-managed fishery in the United States, when you have a fishery that's so incredibly healthy, and yet you have a nine-day season for the recreational industry with devastating economic impacts on towns like Orange Beach, Destin and Panama City.
This whole snapper management system is a train wreck. It's nobody's fault. It's just the way the Magnuson Act is worded. The Magnuson Act has got to be changed; otherwise, we're never going to come to a rational solution to this mess
Q: What do you think of the sector-separation proposal that would break off the charter fleet from the recreational quota?

A: Unfortunately, this is the byproduct of the whole flaw in the system. You turn brother against brother, charter guys against the recreational guys. I chaired a public hearing about (sector separation) two weeks ago, and fisticuffs broke out. Fortunately, we had enforcement guys there. That's a terrible byproduct of this stupid management. It's the worst-managed fishery in the United States, without a doubt.

Q: Any final thoughts?

A: A lot of people will say, "This is a bad situation, but boy, look at the stocks we have. They're so healthy, and that's the result of all these restrictions. We've rebuilt the stock." My comment to that is the old cliche: The operation was a success, but the patient died.

What's the good of having all these stocks if nobody can use them


"It's probably the worst-managed fishery in the United states." So why won't those in charge of the fishery listen to Dr. Shipp? Simple! A healthy fishery does not need shares/separation. Bob Harbison

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  • testerman28testerman28 Posts: 1,329 Officer
    great post.. it is true that it has turned brother against brother.. hope we can work it out soon.
  • reel stamasreel stamas Posts: 6,153 Admiral
    Dr. Bob has some excellent insights & ideas about how to better manage the fishery, but sadly the people making the rules refuse to follow his recommendations...
    Makes me wonder if they're 'idiots' (who refuse to listen/learn) or 'criminals' (that are bought/paid for) ???
    There should be NO Commercial Fishing for any fish species considered 'Over-fished' , 'Undergoing Overfishing' or Subject to Recreational Seasons, Limits, or Closures... Game Fish Status IS the Answer !!!
  • tunamantunaman Posts: 3,767 Captain
    Makes me wonder who they nreally are lookin out for. Sometimes I think they're simply anti-hunter. They take something away it seldom comes back. JMO
  • Tom HiltonTom Hilton Posts: 1,595 Captain
    It's really very simple. The push is to convert our wild fish stocks into investment fish stocks, similar to investing in stocks on Wall St.

    The investors own a % of the business (our fish), and most of them paid NOTHING for those shares of stock (IFQs). As the biomass of fish grows, their stock portfolio grows, since it based on a % of the total biomass.

    If they can prevent any actions that would reduce the growth of that portfolio (such as recreational fishermen catching the snapper and taking them home, or the Gulf Council reducing the commercial allocation %), then that would increase their profits. Remove the fishermen from the water and guess what? They can't catch the fish, the fish breed, and the fish stock (and their profits) grow immensely. Intimidate the Council with lawsuits and guess what? They don't reallocate the quota to the rightful owners.

    If you want a preview of what Sector Segregation will bring, simply look at the existing Headboat EFP; 17 well-connected boats have been allowed to fish any day they want for 9 months now (and still fishing) while the rest of us (and their competitors) have been prohibited from fishing federal waters all year except for a measly 9 days.

    9 months vs 9 days.

    THAT, my friends, is Sector Segregation in a nutshell.
  • harbisonharbison Posts: 5,468 Admiral
    As Tom says, it's all about money. What was once our fishery is NO more. The fish now belong to those with the biggest pockets.
    " Dr. Bob has some excellent insights & ideas about how to better manage the fishery, but sadly the people making the rules refuse to follow his recommendations...
    Makes me wonder if they're 'idiots' (who refuse to listen/learn) or 'criminals' (that are bought/paid for) ???"

    Bought & paid for ever since EDF took complete controll of NOAA.
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