You just can't make this **** up.....:grin
In a statement following the decision to abruptly scrap a vote on the measure, Boehner and his fellow GOP leaders tried to put the onus back on Obama, saying the president had the power to act unilaterally, "without the need for congressional action," to respond to the crisis.
"There are numerous steps the president can and should be taking right now, without the need for congressional action, to secure our borders and ensure these children are returned swiftly and safely to their countries."
Yet that was a polar opposite message from the one Republicans delivered a day earlier, when they voted to authorize a lawsuit against Obama for "bypass[ing] the legislative process to create his own laws by executive fiat,"
That is not the idea. They are wanting him to waive due process to speed the deportations. Break the law, not enforce it.
Unfortunately the joke directly affects the general welfare of the American people....it's disgusting.....
Nothing worthwhile is going on in congress.
Get back to watching MSNBC, they lose 20% of their viewership while you are here.
The House GOP Border Plan Just Blew Up In Its Face
House Republican leadership abruptly postponed and then ultimately pulled a vote on its plan to deal with the crisis along the U.S.-Mexico border on Thursday, after a conservative revolt left leadership short of the votes needed to pass the bill.
Soon after House leaders pulled the bill, however, a 3 p.m. ET Republican conference meeting was scheduled in an apparent attempt to revive the bill. Members were advised that additional votes were still possible.
The original pulling of the bill served as a remarkable setback for House Speaker John Boehner and the incoming House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, who had **** support for the border bill.
This week, House conservatives revolted against the Republican-led border plan, which provides about $659 million in emergency spending for the border crisis through the fiscal year that ends Sept. 30.
The Republican dissent was led by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), the conservative freshman firebrand who has miffed House leadership before by meddling in the House's affairs (most notably, last year, ahead of the government shutdown ).
Cruz has led a wing of conservatives who say any border legislation should include a provision to stop the expansion of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, which shields hundreds of thousands of young undocumented immigrants from deportation. Many of the immigrants who have been part of the recent influx coming over the border have been unaccompanied minors, but they are not eligible for the DACA program.
The conservative ire at the plan led Republican leaders to schedule two votes — one on the border bill and another on legislation that would bar President Barack Obama from delaying the deportation of young, undocumented immigrants. However, shortly after announcing the dual votes, the GOP leadership announced they were both cancelled. This indicates the conservative wing was not satisfied with the legislation to speed the deportation of young immigrants being voted on separately.
In a statement announcing the cancellation of the border bill vote vote, House GOP leaders blamed Obama for not enforcing current laws as a reason for the concern among House Republicans.
"This situation shows the intense concern within our conference – and among the American people – about the need to ensure the security of our borders and the president’s refusal to faithfully execute our laws," the GOP leaders — Boehner, Scalise, incoming House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, and House Republican Conference Chair Cathy McMorris Rodgers — said in a joint statement.
The four leaders also argued Obama can move forward and improve the situation on the border "without congressional action."
"There are numerous steps the president can and should be taking right now, without the need for congressional action, to secure our borders and ensure these children are returned swiftly and safely to their countries," they said. "Through an inclusive process, a border bill was built by listening to members and the American people that has the support not just of a majority of the majority in the House, but most of the House Republican Conference. We will continue to work on solutions to the border crisis and other challenges facing our country."
Reacting to that statement, White House adviser Dan Pfeiffer tweeted the House GOP conference " once again proves why the President must act on his own to solve problems." And a spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Reid was "glad Republicans have come around."
"Senator Reid agrees with House Republican leaders’ statement that President Obama has the authority to take steps on immigration reform on his own," the Reid spokesman said. "He's glad Republicans have come around and hopes this means they’ll drop their frivolous lawsuit against the President instead of continuing to waste the American people’s time and money."
The November elections are going to be interesting.
Former Mini Mart Magnate
I am just here for my amusement.
You may want to familiarize yourself with the law a little before you make this false statement. Take a look at the 2008 law that requires these minors to be released to their relatives as expeditiously a possible.
Two Bay Area Democrats - Sen. Dianne Feinstein and Rep. Zoe Lofgren of San Jose - wrote the law now at the center of the controversy over what to do with the 50,000-plus children and other Central American immigrants swamping the Texas border.
...She (Feinstein) told Department of Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson, who wants more flexibility to deport, that the law contains a provision for "exceptional circumstances" that could provide the administration the authority it wants without changing the law.
She argued that "exceptional circumstances" could be triggered by large numbers coming in.
It is not Obama's job to be Community Organizer in Chief - it is his job to honor his oath to... faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
You will be grateful if the executive office is forced to refrain from legislating...the very next time a president whose policies you disagree with tries to do it. Obama's actions regarding ACA and lack of action regarding the child victimization act are indefensible.
I beg you and anyone else to show where Obama's actions are unprecedented. UN-effffing-precedented. I ask for this every day... I'm beginning to think the whiners don't even know what it means.
Because you are tilting at windmills. Who the heck cares if there is 'precedence', there is precedence for mass murder, doesn't make it legal. Is it 'legal' is the issue, is it within the oath of office is the issue, is it extra-Constitutional is the issue (meaning outside the authority of executive office). We are in the 'here and now', that is the only place we can deal with it.
"...The U.S. Supreme Court dealt huge blows to leftist policies on Thursday in two separate unanimous rulings. In one ruling, the court ruled unanimously that President Barack Obama violated the Constitution when, in 2012, he appointed federal officials to key positions without Senate approval.
In 2012, Obama violated the Constitution when he made appointments to the National Labor Relations Board and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau in lieu of the Senate, which was holding sessions only every three days. Obama contended that the Senate was not really in session, and that it sought to thwart his appointments by not being in session. A lawsuit over the issue came from a labor relations board case against a Yakima Pepsi distributor.
Justice Stephen Breyer wrote, “Because the Senate was in session during its pro forma sessions, the president made the recess appointments before us during a break too short to count as recess. For that reason, the appointments are invalid.” The conservative side of the court, including Justices Antonin Scalia, Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, and Chief Justice John Roberts, wanted to restrict the president’s power to make recess appointments further.
The appointments to the NLRB made when Obama violated the Constitution are now invalid, and cases the board may need to revisit cases heard between 2012 and 2013. The Senate has since confirmed Obama’s appointed head of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, Richard Cordray, and so he will remain in that position..."
Why now? We never bothered to deal with it before.
All presidents the last 100 years + did "it".
Could it be.... never mind.
We all know WHY NOW
Clause 3: Recess appointments
The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.
Yea, Obama should be hung for not "predicting" the court's interpretation of the word "the".
..... intrasession appointments were unconstitutional because the word "the" before the word "Recess" in the Constitution was determined to mean to limit it to only the intersession Recess and it further limited the power by limiting it to only those vacancies that "happen" to occur during the intersession break and not to vacancies that existed prior to the Recess.
On June 26, 2014, the United States Supreme Court ruled in a unanimous decision that President Obama overreached his executive authority in appointing members to the NLRB while the Senate was still formally in session. Justice Stephen Breyer, in the majority opinion, wrote that the Constitution allows for the Congress itself to determine its sessions and recesses, that "the Senate is in session when it says it is", and that the President does not have the right to unilaterally dictate Congressional sessions and make recess appointments thusly. However, the decision allows the use of recess appointments during breaks within a session for vacancies that existed prior to the break.
Didn't these vacancies exist prior to "the" break? I thought they did... perhaps not.
And after it was all said and done, Richard Cordray got to keep his job anyway.
You asked for an example and I gave you one authenticated by the Supreme Court, although I am not sure it would matter how many examples were provided. Every time Obama has changed the requirements and/or timelines for implementations of parts of the ACA without going through Congress he has violated the Constitution.
Let me see if I understand exactly what the two of you are implying, but not brave enough to state outright, apparently...
President Barrack Hussein Obama has darker skin than any other president. Because his skin is darker, he should not be expected to honor his oath of office. He should not be expected to honor, uphold or obey the Constitution, including but not limited to the separation of powers. His skin shade is of such historical importance that we must refrain from criticism that might injure his fragile psych, because we all know that darker skinned folks bear no blame for their misbehavior. In other words Obama's lawlessness can be overlooked because, after all, his skin is darker than any other president...and allowances must be made. Balderdash!
The above, my friends, is the implied racism in the reasoning of today's self-proclaimed (in)tolerant folks.
When actually, it is the flaws in his character that determine the paths he takes, and the words he speaks.
You know they do not qualify for refugee status how? You guessed it????
Law requires a hearing to make this determination and last I heard over half are expected to qualify based on initial interviews.
You almost got it.
Of course everyone expects the president to honor the oath of office. Of course he is expected to honor, uphold and obey the constitution, including the separation of powers. Of course....
So why were "some" actions of every president in the past with white skin, actions that may or may not have violated the oath of office, tolerated? Why weren't they sued for making recess appointments that may or may not have been during "the" recess?
Therein lies the difference that is so blatantly obvious. It's undeniable... except by people who harbor intense hatred despite what their church teaches them about harboring hatred.
And I except the fact that the court unanimously decided that Obama overstepped his authority by agreeing with the lower court that Obama misinterpreted the word "the" before the word "recess". He really trounced on the constitution.
As for your last statement, I didn't realize you were an appelate judge or a supreme court justice... wow. That's awesome having your participation here.
So, when the SCOTUS decides to invalidate obamacare because Obama changed timelines for implentation, will they also retro-activley invalidate all the Medicare Part D remittances made after Bush changed the timeline for its implemenation?
Most often, you never know the background, knowledge, experiences and/or capabilities of those you engage with on the internet; do you?
I never said other Presidents had not been accused of violating their Oaths of Office, but you hinted at it. As for Bush, let's save that one for another thread.
I cannot sum up Obama's disregard for the rule of law in this country any better than Grady Lady. But, most people have an opinion, and some, depending on one's perspective, are more credible than others.
Have a nice day.