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Tom HiltonTom Hilton Posts: 1,595 Captain
POSTED ON JULY 10, 2014


7 Sportsmen’s Groups Back Landrieu Amendment That Gives Red Snapper Management to States


ASK LEAD SPONSORS OF SPORTMEN’S LEGISLATION SENATE IS CONSIDERING TO ADD LANDRIEU’S AMENDMENT

WASHINGTON—Seven of the most prominent national organizations representing America’s anglers wrote to the lead sponsors of the sportsmen’s bill the Senate is currently debating and asked that U.S. Senators Mary L. Landrieu’s, D-La., BIPARTISAN GULF OF MEXICO RED SNAPPER CONSERVATION ACT be added to the package. Earlier this week, SEN. LANDRIEU TOOK THE PROCEDURAL STEPS NECESSARY TO MAKE THIS POSSIBLE. READ THE LETTER from the American Sportfishing Association, Center for Coastal Conservation (CCA), the Center for Coastal Conservation, the International Game Fish Association, the Ocean Foundation, the National Marine Manufacturers Association and the Billlfish Foundation.

Sen. Landrieu’s legislation would transfer the authority for managing red snapper and setting the season length from the federal government to Gulf Coast states and was developed in close coordination with the FIVE GULF COAST STATE CHAPTERS OF THE COASTAL CONSERVATION ASSOCIATION, INCLUDING DAVID CRESSON, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, CCA LOUISIANA. This year’s season was only 9 days, down from 42 days last year. A vote to add Sen. Landrieu’s bill to the larger sportsmen’s legislation could come this week.

“We are writing to respectfully urge adoption of a Red Snapper amendment to your Sportsmen’s Act pending on the Senate floor. It is vital that a Red Snapper amendment be enacted in the 113th Congress to ensure the long-term conservation of Gulf of Mexico red snapper while concurrently improving the economies of Gulf States,” the organizations wrote. “State management would result in improved management of Gulf red snapper for the betterment of the fishery and the entire regional economy in which recreational fishing contributes more than $10 billion in annual economic activity to the five Gulf States.”

“Our coalition to fix the unquestionably broken old system governing recreational fishing for red snapper continues to grow stronger and deeper. I appreciate the support from these sportsmen groups for the Gulf of Mexico Red Snapper Conservation Act and urge senators from both parties to support adding this common sense bill to the sportsman’s package,” Sen. Landrieu said. “Predictable, reliable red snapper seasons aren’t just important to the men and women that make their living fishing, they’re essential to the time-honored traditions of friends and families along the Gulf Coast who have memories of fishing with their parents and want to pass that along to their children.”

This follows Sen. Landrieu’s successful efforts LAST MONTH TO SECURE FUNDING AND ESSENTIAL REFORMS TO THE NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION (NOAA), THE FEDERAL AGENCY THAT REGULATES GULF FISHERIES, THAT WILL PREVENT ANOTHER NEEDLESSLY SHORT SEASON based on faulty and inaccurate fish counts.

The Gulf of Mexico Red Snapper Conservation Act of 2013 (S.1161) addresses an erratic rule-making process that was rejected by a Federal court in Texas last year for impermissibly discriminating against citizens of different states. THE BILL IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE EFFORTS OF THE GULF COAST GOVERNORS TO PROMOTE RESPONSIBLE REGIONAL MANAGEMENT.

In May, SEN. LANDRIEU AND DAVID CRESSON, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE COASTAL CONSERVATION ASSOCIATION OF LOUISIANA, MET WITH U.S. SENATOR MARK BEGICH, D-AK, CHAIRMAN OF THE SENATE SUBCOMMITTEE ON OCEANS, ATMOSPHERE, FISHERIES, AND COAST GUARD, TO URGE SENATE ACTION on the Red Snapper Conservation Act.

Last year, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) issued three separate red snapper seasons for Gulf Coast States, wreaking havoc on the recreational fishing industry that cost billions to the regional economy.

This can be found here: http://www.joincca.org/articles/673

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  • HuckleberryHuckleberry Posts: 180 Officer
    I think this died on the Senate floor today. Correct?
  • notreelynotreely Posts: 653 Officer
    Republicans killed it ! Every Gulf state republican senator voted against it. Democrats Landrieu from Louisiana and Nelson from florida voted for it.

    http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=2&vote=00220

    U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 113th Congress - 2nd Session
    as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate
    Vote Summary
    Question: On the Cloture Motion (Motion to Invoke Cloture on S. 2363 )
    Vote Number: 220 Vote Date: July 10, 2014, 11:47 AM
    Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Cloture Motion Rejected
    Measure Number: S. 2363 (Bipartisan Sportsmen's Act of 2014 )
    Measure Title: A bill to protect and enhance opportunities for recreational hunting, fishing, and shooting, and for other purposes.
    Vote Counts: YEAs 41
    NAYs 56
    Not Voting 3
    Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State

    Alphabetical by Senator Name
    Alexander (R-TN), Nay
    Ayotte (R-NH), Nay
    Baldwin (D-WI), Yea
    Barrasso (R-WY), Nay
    Begich (D-AK), Yea
    Bennet (D-CO), Yea
    Blumenthal (D-CT), Nay
    Blunt (R-MO), Nay
    Booker (D-NJ), Nay
    Boozman (R-AR), Nay
    Boxer (D-CA), Nay
    Brown (D-OH), Yea
    Burr (R-NC), Nay
    Cantwell (D-WA), Yea
    Cardin (D-MD), Not Voting
    Carper (D-DE), Yea
    Casey (D-PA), Yea
    Chambliss (R-GA), Nay
    Coats (R-IN), Nay
    Coburn (R-OK), Nay
    Cochran (R-MS), Nay
    Collins (R-ME), Nay
    Coons (D-DE), Yea
    Corker (R-TN), Nay
    Cornyn (R-TX), Nay
    Crapo (R-ID), Nay
    Cruz (R-TX), Nay
    Donnelly (D-IN), Yea
    Durbin (D-IL), Nay
    Enzi (R-WY), Nay
    Feinstein (D-CA), Nay
    Fischer (R-NE), Nay
    Flake (R-AZ), Nay
    Franken (D-MN), Yea
    Gillibrand (D-NY), Yea
    Graham (R-SC), Nay
    Grassley (R-IA), Nay
    Hagan (D-NC), Yea
    Harkin (D-IA), Yea
    Hatch (R-UT), Nay
    Heinrich (D-NM), Yea
    Heitkamp (D-ND), Yea
    Heller (R-NV), Nay
    Hirono (D-HI), Nay
    Hoeven (R-ND), Nay
    Inhofe (R-OK), Nay
    Isakson (R-GA), Nay
    Johanns (R-NE), Nay
    Johnson (D-SD), Yea
    Johnson (R-WI), Nay
    Kaine (D-VA), Yea
    King (I-ME), Yea
    Kirk (R-IL), Nay
    Klobuchar (D-MN), Yea
    Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
    Leahy (D-VT), Yea
    Lee (R-UT), Nay
    Levin (D-MI), Yea
    Manchin (D-WV), Yea
    Markey (D-MA), Nay
    McCain (R-AZ), Nay
    McCaskill (D-MO), Yea
    McConnell (R-KY), Nay
    Menendez (D-NJ), Nay
    Merkley (D-OR), Yea
    Mikulski (D-MD), Not Voting
    Moran (R-KS), Nay
    Murkowski (R-AK), Nay
    Murphy (D-CT), Nay
    Murray (D-WA), Yea
    Nelson (D-FL), Yea
    Paul (R-KY), Nay
    Portman (R-OH), Nay
    Pryor (D-AR), Yea
    Reed (D-RI), Nay
    Reid (D-NV), Yea
    Risch (R-ID), Nay
    Roberts (R-KS), Nay
    Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
    Rubio (R-FL), Nay
    Sanders (I-VT), Yea
    Schatz (D-HI), Not Voting
    Schumer (D-NY), Yea
    Scott (R-SC), Nay
    Sessions (R-AL), Nay
    Shaheen (D-NH), Yea
    Shelby (R-AL), Nay
    Stabenow (D-MI), Yea
    Tester (D-MT), Yea
    Thune (R-SD), Nay
    Toomey (R-PA), Nay
    Udall (D-CO), Yea
    Udall (D-NM), Yea
    Vitter (R-LA), Nay
    Walsh (D-MT), Yea
    Warner (D-VA), Yea
    Warren (D-MA), Nay
    Whitehouse (D-RI), Yea
    Wicker (R-MS), Nay
    Wyden (D-OR), Yea
    Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State

    Grouped By Vote Position
    YEAs ---41
    Baldwin (D-WI)
    Begich (D-AK)
    Bennet (D-CO)
    Brown (D-OH)
    Cantwell (D-WA)
    Carper (D-DE)
    Casey (D-PA)
    Coons (D-DE)
    Donnelly (D-IN)
    Franken (D-MN)
    Gillibrand (D-NY)
    Hagan (D-NC)
    Harkin (D-IA)
    Heinrich (D-NM)
    Heitkamp (D-ND)
    Johnson (D-SD)
    Kaine (D-VA)
    King (I-ME)
    Klobuchar (D-MN)
    Landrieu (D-LA)
    Leahy (D-VT)
    Levin (D-MI)
    Manchin (D-WV)
    McCaskill (D-MO)
    Merkley (D-OR)
    Murray (D-WA)
    Nelson (D-FL)
    Pryor (D-AR)
    Reid (D-NV)
    Rockefeller (D-WV)
    Sanders (I-VT)
    Schumer (D-NY)
    Shaheen (D-NH)
    Stabenow (D-MI)
    Tester (D-MT)
    Udall (D-CO)
    Udall (D-NM)
    Walsh (D-MT)
    Warner (D-VA)
    Whitehouse (D-RI)
    Wyden (D-OR)
    NAYs ---56
    Alexander (R-TN)
    Ayotte (R-NH)
    Barrasso (R-WY)
    Blumenthal (D-CT)
    Blunt (R-MO)
    Booker (D-NJ)
    Boozman (R-AR)
    Boxer (D-CA)
    Burr (R-NC)
    Chambliss (R-GA)
    Coats (R-IN)
    Coburn (R-OK)
    Cochran (R-MS)
    Collins (R-ME)
    Corker (R-TN)
    Cornyn (R-TX)
    Crapo (R-ID)
    Cruz (R-TX)
    Durbin (D-IL)
    Enzi (R-WY)
    Feinstein (D-CA)
    Fischer (R-NE)
    Flake (R-AZ)
    Graham (R-SC)
    Grassley (R-IA)
    Hatch (R-UT)
    Heller (R-NV)
    Hirono (D-HI)
    Hoeven (R-ND)
    Inhofe (R-OK)
    Isakson (R-GA)
    Johanns (R-NE)
    Johnson (R-WI)
    Kirk (R-IL)
    Lee (R-UT)
    Markey (D-MA)
    McCain (R-AZ)
    McConnell (R-KY)
    Menendez (D-NJ)
    Moran (R-KS)
    Murkowski (R-AK)
    Murphy (D-CT)
    Paul (R-KY)
    Portman (R-OH)
    Reed (D-RI)
    Risch (R-ID)
    Roberts (R-KS)
    Rubio (R-FL)
    Scott (R-SC)
    Sessions (R-AL)
    Shelby (R-AL)
    Thune (R-SD)
    Toomey (R-PA)
    Vitter (R-LA)
    Warren (D-MA)
    Wicker (R-MS)
    Not Voting - 3
    Cardin (D-MD)
    Mikulski (D-MD)
    Schatz (D-HI)
    Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State
  • notreelynotreely Posts: 653 Officer
    Tom I'll add the senate republicans to your conspiracy theory.
  • BubbaIIBubbaII Posts: 328 Deckhand
    Payback is a beeotch, isn't it?
  • TrippleTailIVTrippleTailIV Posts: 197 Officer
    whoa. All but three from the South voted Nay. Thanks for posting Notreely
  • Tom HiltonTom Hilton Posts: 1,595 Captain
    Notreely, so you are saying these people voted because the science supported their position? I think the reality of what happens in Washington is who contributes the most to your election campaign.
  • markw4321markw4321 Posts: 171 Officer
    By SEUNG MIN KIM | 7/10/14 12:56 PM EDT
    The Senate killed a bipartisan bill Thursday designed to boost hunting and fishing protections — a victim of a long-running war over amendments that came in the shadow of gun politics.

    The measure was all but certain to fail after a spat over amendments led Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) to use a procedural maneuver to block changes to the bill on Wednesday. Reid accused the GOP of wanting a slew of amendments designed to kill the bill.

    Republicans wanted what Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski, the bill’s main GOP sponsor, called an “open and fair” amendment process.

    The sportsmen’s bill — a political boon for its chief Democratic sponsor, North Carolina Sen. Kay Hagan — died in a 41-56 procedural vote Thursday. The legislation needed 60 votes to advance.
    But having a free-flowing amendment process would have forced red-state Democrats in tough reelection bids to take potentially tough votes on tweaking gun laws.

    For example, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) called for loosening gun restrictions in the District of Columbia, such as overturning its ban on semiautomatic firearms and repealing certain registration requirements.

    And Democrats who are among the chamber’s most ardent gun-control advocates had their own demands.

    The second-ranking Senate Democrat, Illinois Sen. **** Durbin, filed an amendment to toughen penalties for straw purchasers and traffickers of firearms. Connecticut Democratic Sens. Richard Blumenthal and Chris Murphy wanted to bar perpetrators of domestic violence to own firearms.

    The Bipartisan Sportsmen’s Act of 2014 started off on an encouraging note – senators advanced the legislation Monday with a vote of 82-12– but like other popular bills before it, died under the weight of an amendment fight.



    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/07/hunting-fishing-bill-dies-sportsman-bill-108763.html#ixzz37BP5qSXl
  • TrippleTailIVTrippleTailIV Posts: 197 Officer
    Tom, I agree it is doubtful this has anything to do with science, but as to campaign contributions, that can't explain Rubio or Cruz.
  • Tom HiltonTom Hilton Posts: 1,595 Captain
    Tom, I agree it is doubtful this has anything to do with science, but as to campaign contributions, that can't explain Rubio or Cruz.

    Why? We are talking politicians here, right?
  • TrippleTailIVTrippleTailIV Posts: 197 Officer
    The point Tom is many of our illustrious Congressional delegates have stated in the not so recent past about the fundamental need for states to manage red snapper. So, for a simple thing like this, why didn't they vote for it. In terms of MSA, without the Senate on board, all this talk about state management is just that, talk.

    My question therefore, is what did AL, TX, MS and FL (both LA Senators voted yes) Senators get out of this by voting no?
  • markw4321markw4321 Posts: 171 Officer
    The point Tom is many of our illustrious Congressional delegates have stated in the not so recent past about the fundamental need for states to manage red snapper. So, for a simple thing like this, why didn't they vote for it. In terms of MSA, without the Senate on board, all this talk about state management is just that, talk.

    My question therefore, is what did AL, TX, MS and FL (both LA Senators voted yes) Senators get out of this by voting no?

    There were a lot of other items stacked in with the fishery management issues in this piece of legislation. Did you read the article I posted?
  • Tom HiltonTom Hilton Posts: 1,595 Captain
    markw4321 wrote: »
    There were a lot of other items stacked in with the fishery management issues in this piece of legislation. Did you read the article I posted?

    But Mark, it's not in their propaganda rhetoric to look at the reality of what is happening - these puppets prefer to place the blame on Tom Hilton's Conspiracy Theory line that they ALL use - it's almost comical to see what these peons spout time after time. Obviously they can't think for themselves and must rely on the enviro-scripted rhetoric.
  • surfmansurfman WC FLPosts: 6,008 Admiral
    They have been doing it for years too.
    Tight Lines, Steve
    My posts are my opinion only.

    Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.  Will Rogers
  • FlatsFrenzyFlatsFrenzy Posts: 893 Officer
    This is the problem with packing too much content and too many issues into one vote...
    -
    Chris
    Gulf Coast of FL
    @flatsfrenzy #flyonly #onelessspinrod
  • TrippleTailIVTrippleTailIV Posts: 197 Officer
    If your referring to me, then how am I a puppet Tom? I'm asking a question and making a statement. Which you deflected. Tell me, am I a so called puppet because I ask questions and don't blindly fall into line?

    Mark, thanks for the reminder, I did read and have read the article(s) on this. I can get a sense of the why, but I'm still surprised. I get why the NE (reciprocity against the Hurricane Sandy issue) and democrats (guns) but the point I made remains the same, without the Senate, state management will not occur.
  • Tom HiltonTom Hilton Posts: 1,595 Captain
    Tripple,
    Was not referring to you - my apologies. Like I said, the reality of politics is that Senators rely on campaign contributions to stay elected, and there are interests with VERY deep pockets who want this scheme to move forward..."if you don't vote against this, then our contributions will cease"...

    Cornyn and Hutchison consistently voted along the enviro lines. Cruz recently took a fishing trip aboard one of the SOS Plan leader's boat, and I'm sure he got an earful of propaganda while out there.
  • TrippleTailIVTrippleTailIV Posts: 197 Officer
    Tom
    Apologies Accepted. I must apologize myself as I responded after dealing with a problem child here at work.

    I appreciate you filling in the blanks. I am quite surprised by Cruz, but you are correct, where the money is, the legislation will follow.
  • Amelia PaddlerAmelia Paddler Posts: 488 Deckhand
    notreely wrote: »
    Republicans killed it ! Every Gulf state republican senator voted against it. Democrats Landrieu from Louisiana and Nelson from florida voted for it.


    Seems a bit more then disingenuous there....

    Although I disagree with the R's voting against this, the makeup of the Senate along party lines means the Dem's killed this bill.
    They had the votes to pass this along party lines.

    113th Congress (2013-2015)
    Majority Party: Democrat (53 seats)
    Minority Party: Republican (45 seats)
  • notreelynotreely Posts: 653 Officer
    Seems a bit more then disingenuous there....

    Although I disagree with the R's voting against this, the makeup of the Senate along party lines means the Dem's killed this bill.
    They had the votes to pass this along party lines.

    113th Congress (2013-2015)
    Majority Party: Democrat (53 seats)
    Minority Party: Republican (45 seats)

    You might want to put your paddle down and read up on the rules of the senate.
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