can anyone recommend a ladder (or somethine else) to get into a 189 from the water
lowerkeys
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I want to ask if anyone has good ideas or recommendations for getting into the boat from the water. I found this on Westmarine but I don't think it would work as the gunnels and sides are very different from a common center console
http://www.westmarine.com/west-marine--portable-gunwale-mount-boarding-ladders--P005_158_001_525
what do people do to get a snorkeler back into the boat. climbing over the side has proved difficult in the past and I would like to keep people away from the back even while the motor is off.
thanks in advance for any help on this
http://www.westmarine.com/west-marine--portable-gunwale-mount-boarding-ladders--P005_158_001_525
what do people do to get a snorkeler back into the boat. climbing over the side has proved difficult in the past and I would like to keep people away from the back even while the motor is off.
thanks in advance for any help on this
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http://www.armstrongnautical.com/marine_ladders.htm
I am reluctant to mount anything into the hull but maybe i will end up with one of the those ladders. i am going to try one of these rope ladders over the side first. i figure it might work as all you really need is to have the swimmer take one step up before they can get most of the their body onto the side. i will try this over the weekend and see how it works
http://www.westmarine.com/boarding-ladders/sea-dog--five-step-boarding-ladder--123406
I love my TH marine boarding ladder. It uses the motor's bolts to attach next to the motor so no new holes. Out of the way when you don't need it but easily deployed even if you're solo and fall off the boat. It gives you a more graceful departure from the water than your entry..
It probably works better with a jackplate but I don't have a jackplate and I'm totally happy with it. Couple of different mounting options so make sure you get the correct option for how you want it set up.
there is only 1 cleat on the boat and that is on the bow. there are no cleats on the side or the stern (but there is a poling platform on the stern). I am trying to stay away from the stern out of concern for safety. however, Saltwater Junkie makes a good point that I should also try it off the poling platform. the poling platform certainly gives you something to grab. I will try both. I don't want to place to much stress on the center console but If the rope I paced low, the leverage factor is reduced.
this is a concern that I have and its probably not worth risking it. I will go back to the drawing board. maybe the stern route is the way to go (KISS) but I dread the thought of someone slipping on any sort of ladder back there and getting cut on the sharp ends of the metal hanging back there.
Listen to Renegade.
I took a wave aggressively with just me holding the wheel and my wife the grab bar and the console lifted off from the front.
As a matter of fact , there was so little holding it down , it looked like someone may have done some previous work and not secured it properly.
Any chance of that Renegade?
All good , I called Frank at the factory and he had shallow water customs secure it to my specs. Better than new.
Never touched the console. I know of a guide that owns one and his 55 gallon drum of bait dislodged one. If Frank thinks I touched that console you need to tell him to rethink his rigging and quit passing then blame to me. I know he told you I must have done something to it from a conversation I had with you about this already. That is wrong. Since you asked me twice now about the same issue I am getting the feeling you do not believe me or forgot we talked about it.It was rigged badly from the factory.He rushed the boat to get it to the boat show. Why in the world would I remove a console on a 1 year old boat or mess with it. I can barley fit in there. I had back surgery and can not easily move around in that little area so to play with the console would just be ludicrous. He does tab in the consoles to the 2011 now because of similar issues. I wish Frank would have shut his mouth and fixed it without pointing fingers. That is unprofessional.
Sorry Frank
I don't recall our conversation.
Actually it was Shallow Water that said it looked like there was some recaulking (two different materials in evidence) I did ask Frank when I was in S.C.. He said ,logically, it was possible but didn't know of any work performed.
Let's be clear. Frank A. did not point any fingers, nor am I questioning your integrity.
The fact that I don't recall the conversation is an indication of the importance I've put on the event.
The 'ladder' post brought it to mind.
How are you enjoying your new skiff.....do you find yourself polling much more than you did the 189?
If there was re caulking then the factory touched up the initial caulk job.Shallow Water Customs in my eyes from friends experiences is not very reputable. They have installed used trolling motor parts and sold them as new.
I love my new skiff so far.Its allot slower 43 mph. It poles very nicely and is dead silent. Build quality is the best I have ever seen. I miss the rod lockers immensely though. I bought all one piece fly rods and can not break them down and load them in the truck so I worry about theft. The trailer system is awesome. I just need to back it up till the rear roller is in the water.The tires will be submerged below the lug nuts and it pops off and loads easily the same way in a true Dry launch. This happens when a MFG collaborates with a trailer company in sight of the best they can achieve instead of how cheap they can make it to the customer. People do care about their trailer.
To the Op. Look at this thread. There are a few ladder options .
http://forums.floridasportsman.com/showthread.php?105935-The-Finished-Product-!-2013-Egret-189&highlight=egret+ladder
I have a pic on my phone.
can't manage to attach it.
if you care to see exactly what I'm talking about as well as the manufacturer's specs PM me your cell and I'll send you the picture
thanks. i will pm you
You can see how bright white the old caulking still was on a 12 year old boat that hadn't been washed in two years:
The console has been sturdy enough on both of my boats with up to three large men hanging on in somewhat rough seas. A 55 gallon bait drum probably weighs 500lbs if full and that's a serious wrecking ball on the deck. Whatever the load on it, a well secured console should probably break into pieces before the entire console itself comes loose.
I might be in the upper Keys in a couple of weeks lowerkeys so you can PM if you want to take a look at the TH marine ladder installed and maybe we can cross paths.
That console in the picture is from a Florida Boat. Guess what...It's got 5200 on the bottom. Once that cured, silicone sealant was installed on top of the 5200 to complete the finish at the bottom of the console. If you only had 5200 it would get mold on it. If you were to look on the inside the console you'll see that if you can see the selant it will be moldy. I doubt that Frank is using cheap materials. That not how he works. Beleave me there are alot of ways to cheapen an Egret. I can tell you silicone would not be the first place to start. Tight Lines... Pete
Thanks to Rubin at Action Marine on BPK we got the fast strike running strong. I ended up getting a rope ladder and securing it to the poling platform but from the side of the hull. see pic
he broke the gaff but I still was able to get him in the boat after a bit of back and forth
Nice fish!!!!
Think about it for a minute. You have a welded 1 /34 inch aluminum pipe structure screwed and thru bolted to the deck on a wide stance. That's designed to support a large man standing on top of it. I've never seen a swim ladder attached to a console on any boat have you?