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**** the Sierra club
binellishtr
Posts: 8,797 Admiral
Nothing but a bunch of enviro whak jobs,who only want to see NO HUNTING SIGNS everywhere.
I encourage you to bombard the facebook pages of these enviro whack jobs.
http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/news/press_releases/2014/big-cypress-05-30-2014.html
I encourage you to bombard the facebook pages of these enviro whack jobs.
http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/news/press_releases/2014/big-cypress-05-30-2014.html
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Frank Jackalone, Sierra Club, (727) 824-8813 x 302, [email protected]
Matthew Schwartz, South Florida Wildlands Association, (954) 993-5351, [email protected]
Brian Scherf, [email protected]
The Honorable Sheri Polster Chappell
United States District Judge
Ft. Myers Division
TEL: 239-461-2060
FAX: 239-461-2139
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Agenda Item 18 C
Executive Order
Executive Order for Hunting on Big Cypress Wildlife Management Area. Staff will provide an update on the Hunting Management Plan and the incorporation of the Addition Lands into the WMA. In order to address the 2014-2015 hunting opportunity, a recommendation on establishing walk-in hunting and quotas will be presented.
This may be the time to let nature take it's course.
Who will be the lucky 22...
However, the Federal laws for parks, refuges....and the hybrid "reserves".....allow any nut case group to sue and throw wrenches into the process and delay progress for years...as we have sadly observed with the Addition Lands...Sooner or later if all of the supporters have the strength to last out the court cases the hunting will happen.....It took ten years to beat the anti hunting law suits trying to stop hunting on the National Wildlife Refuges....
We were lied to going into that meeting,and I don't care what the reasons/motives were!
If the don't do the right thing now,and make it known out LOUD then they are just as much our enemy as the enviro whackos.
Disregard anything I may have alluded to previously regarding an executive order on this until proven to be accurate.
At the next FWC meeting the rule below pasted from FWC's agenda will be discussed and possibly moved forward to next steps of implementation. This rule is agenda item 18 B (2) is an action item for Thursday June 19, 2014 at the upcoming FWC meeting.
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Background Report
Draft Rule 68A-15.064
Agenda Item 18 B (2)
June 19, 2014
DRAFT RULE
RULE NO: 68A-15.064 RULE TITLE: Specific Regulations for Wildlife Management Areas –
South Region.
PURPOSE AND EFFECT: The purpose of the proposed rule amendment is to provide specific regulations and hunting seasons for the Addition Unit within the Big Cypress Wildlife Management Area. The effect of the proposed rule amendment will be to enable the agency to better manage fish and wildlife resources and public use on Big Cypress WMA.
SUMMARY: The proposed rule amendment would establish the same hunting seasons and dates within the Addition Unit as in the Bear Island Unit, prohibit the take of wildlife on or from the L-28 Interceptor Canal levees, and allow operation of licensed and motorized vehicles on designated portions of L-28 Interceptor Canal levees north of I-75.
THE FULL TEXT OF THE PROPOSED RULE IS AS FOLLOWS:
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8A-15.064 Specific Regulations for Wildlife Management Areas – South Region.
(1) through (4) No change.
(5) Big Cypress Wildlife Management Area.
(a) Open season:
1. General gun – Twelve days prior to Thanksgiving day through January 1 except during those years when January 1 falls on a Thursday, Friday, or Saturday, in which case the season would close on the following Sunday except in the Deep Lake Unit in the Stairsteps, Bear Island, Turner River, Corn Dance, and Loop units.
2. through 5. No change.
6. Special September duck – In the September season as established by Rule 68A-13.003, F.A.C., except on the Bear Island, Addition and Deep Lake Units.
7. Fishing and frogging – Allowed throughout the year.
(b) Through (c) No change.
(d) General regulations:
1. Through 6. No change.
7. Taking wildlife by use of a gun on or from rights-of-way of County Roads 839, 841, 837 or Burns Road or State Road 84 or 94 or US 41 or the L-28 Interceptor Canal levees is prohibited as provided by Rule 68A-4.008, F.A.C.
8. Through 19. No change.
20. Motorized vehicles and vessels are prohibited in the Addition Unit except that licensed and registered vehicles may be operated on designated portions of L-28 Interceptor Canal levees north of I-75.
(6)Through (11) No change.
PROPOSED EFFECTIVE DATE: September 18, 2014
Rulemaking Authority Art. IV, Sec. 9, Fla. Const., 379.2223, 375.313 FS. Law Implemented Art. IV, Sec. 9, Fla. Const., 379.2223, 375.313 FS. History–New 6-21-82, Amended 7-1-83, 7-27-83, 9-27-83, 7-5-84, 7-1-85, 5-7-86, 8-5-86, 5-10-87, 8-24-87, 5-1-88, 6-7-88, 7-1-89, 7-1-90, 9-1-90, 7-1-91, 7-1-92, 7-1-93, 7-1-94, 7-1-95, 8-15-95, 7-1-96, 9-15-96, 10-20-96, 6-1-97, 8-7-97, 7-1-98, 7-2-98, 7-1-99, Formerly 39-15.064, Amended 11-17-99, 7-1-00, 7-1-01, 6-2-02, 2-27-03, 5-1-03, 7-1-04, 7-1-05, 7-1-06, 7-1-07, 7-1-08, 7-1-09, 7-20-09, 1-19-10, 7-1-10, 8-26-10, 7-1-11, 7-1-12, 7-1-13, 7-1-14,9-18-14. 1
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Haven't got a clue. May want to watch the FWC meeting - google Florida Channel on the right day and watch the meeting live or later.
Maybe they will go into details then.
Otherwise we wait and see.
I don't agree with everything they say, but if we don't save the Glades we're toast.
Jim
That ought to win a lot of friends around here.
From what I've seen down here in the last many years they are probably more responsible for bad management practices than anyone due to their constant litigation getting in the way of much more proper management techniques by their obstructionist litigation tactics.
They didn't get their stupid Skyways 10 mile bridge on Tamiami Trail (99.9999% of the water flows underground duuhh) and they will not stop oil drilling in the Glades or FP&Lpower lines where needed. All they do is get in the way with their anti-human/hunting/ORV agenda, litigation etc. so as to claim false successes to get more $$$ dollars from sadly ignorant followers that are unaware of their real anti-human/hunting/ORV agenda.
Sierra is a very extreme group which few sportsmen I am aware of have one lick of respect for.
As far as saving the Glades goes a great portion of it is on it's way to being one big STA due to CERP and other stuff like that, that Sierra and others support.
Other vast landscapes South of Lake Okeechobee are already saved (won't be developed) such as Eglds Park, Big Cypress, OK Slough, Fakahatchee Strand, Picayune Strand (to be flooded by CERP guaranteed), Spirit of the Wild, Dinner Island etc. etc.
Sorry, but you really hit one of my buttons by praising this eco-freak group.
I don't know much about the bridge that you mentioned, although a bridge may make more sense than a long causeway for water flow.
I sure that they'd campaign for stopping the drilling for oil in the Glades or any where in Florida, offshore as well as on the land.
You don't have to be sorry to voice your opinion.
Respectfully,
Jim
Hello All,
Well, today (6-10-2014) I contacted FWC staff and asked if I had been seeing things on the upcoming FWC agenda a while back that led me to spread info that an executive order was going to be used to get hunting in the Addition.
It was bothering me that I had misinformed anyone.
Well I was told that I was NOT seeing things and that an executive order was specified in past agenda info under item 18 C on the past but subsequently amended on upcoming meeting agenda. It was later decided to run it through the normal rule process since there was enough time to get it done and hunt this year albeit just foot hunting with a loss of some archery days due to the schedule so the agenda was amended to reflect that under item 18 B (2).
This stuff can get very tricky to keep up with.
As far as quota permits go - it will be by quota permit only. The highest number I've heard will be available is 30 but that could be subject to minor change until the rule is set in concrete.
I am not worrying too much though because I don't think hunting there is a very big deal since it hasn't been managed much in 25+ years and some folks have been having their way with the place for many years meaning to me that the hunting there will be only average and not worth me sweating getting a quota there to go for a big buck.
The main issue in my mind is that somebody finally get to hunt there after being lag screwed by folks like Sierra club for many years.