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After 29 years and $200 million...

CyclistCyclist Posts: 23,340 AG
... we may a a decent substitute for gas.


After 29 years and $200 million Algenol has discovered how to produce algae biofuel at only $1.27 per gallon. This process is a significant improvement on biofuel yield, producing 8,000 gallons per acre/per year. Such efficient production compares favorably to sugar cane (800 gallons per acre/ per year) and corn (420 gallons per acre/per year). It is especially important to note that this process is more sustainable than other methods in that no arable land is used to produce the biofuel. This process uses flexible plastic film photobioreactors to grow blue-green algae with saltwater and carbon dioxide to produce sugars which are converted into ethanol and biomass. The process is not only sustainable in that it is a potential leader in biofuel/ethanol production, but it also produces 1.4 gallons of clean water per gallon of fuel.

http://ecopreneurist.com/2014/04/17/algenol-produces-8000-gallons-algae-biofuel-per-acre-1-27-per-gallon/

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  • gandrfabgandrfab Posts: 21,646 AG
    Did I read desalination and fuel production.
  • CyclistCyclist Posts: 23,340 AG
    gandrfab wrote: »
    Did I read desalination and fuel production.

    Big deal if all is true.
  • cprcpr Posts: 9,299 Admiral
    So we should get diesel vehicles?
    "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function." F. Scott Fitzgerald

    "Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future." Niels Bohr
  • capt louiecapt louie Posts: 10,901 Moderator
    cpr wrote: »
    So we should get diesel vehicles?

    Only if they run on ethanol.
    "You'll get your weather"
  • CatBoxCatBox Posts: 3,706 Captain
    This is one time that I hope Cyclist is correct!! :crossed
  • HomerSimpsonHomerSimpson Posts: 6,573 Admiral
    in 2004, America used 140 billion gallons of fuel.

    So you would need 17.5 million acres of Algeno to produce that much gas

    That's a little less than half the state of Florida,

    people complain how the coal miners stripped the land, can you imagine the amount of land that would be destroyed trying to do that type of farming in any large scale operation?
  • cprcpr Posts: 9,299 Admiral
    in 2004, America used 140 billion gallons of fuel.

    So you would need 17.5 million acres of Algeno to produce that much gas

    That's a little less than half the state of Florida,

    people complain how the coal miners stripped the land, can you imagine the amount of land that would be destroyed trying to do that type of farming in any large scale operation?

    BLM has plenty to lease :wink
    "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function." F. Scott Fitzgerald

    "Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future." Niels Bohr
  • FishinMcNutFishinMcNut Posts: 536 Officer
    No mention of how much energy is produced per gallon. That is the little unspoken secret about ethanol.
  • duckmanJRduckmanJR Posts: 21,265 AG
    in 2004, America used 140 billion gallons of fuel.

    So you would need 17.5 million acres of Algeno to produce that much gas

    That's a little less than half the state of Florida,

    people complain how the coal miners stripped the land, can you imagine the amount of land that would be destroyed trying to do that type of farming in any large scale operation?

    When the oil runs out...the Arabs have enough desert to do it...
    There are many roads to travel
    Many things to do.
    Knots to be unraveled
    'fore the darkness falls on you
  • Joey ButtonsJoey Buttons Posts: 11,848 AG
    Oil will never run out.
  • duckmanJRduckmanJR Posts: 21,265 AG
    Oil will never run out.

    Is that a fact?................:rotflmao
    There are many roads to travel
    Many things to do.
    Knots to be unraveled
    'fore the darkness falls on you
  • Joey ButtonsJoey Buttons Posts: 11,848 AG
    Yes.

    We are finding new sources and new ways to extract oil that were not thought of decades ago.

    The same will continue to happen.
  • WraithWraith Posts: 1,653 Captain
    in 2004, America used 140 billion gallons of fuel.

    So you would need 17.5 million acres of Algeno to produce that much gas

    That's a little less than half the state of Florida,

    people complain how the coal miners stripped the land, can you imagine the amount of land that would be destroyed trying to do that type of farming in any large scale operation?

    Except to replace the Fuel, Gas and Diesel, BTU for BTU, one will need somewhere in the range of 240 billion Gallons of Ethanol.
    SLOP, (Standard Liberal Operating Procedure).
  • Michael RepperMichael Repper Posts: 4,897 Officer
    Yes.

    We are finding new sources and new ways to extract oil from whales that were not thought of decades ago.

    The same will continue to happen.

    Things like this change with time.
  • Machine HeadMachine Head Posts: 2,634 Officer
    What a deal $1.27 + $2.00 in state and federal taxes + transportation + profit margin.
    Federal government can't wait to spend are tax money for this crap.
    "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." - Kenneth Grahame
  • Machine HeadMachine Head Posts: 2,634 Officer
    Just another scam to fatten politicians pockets.
    "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." - Kenneth Grahame
  • ScoutboatScoutboat Posts: 2,575 Captain
    Big oil will fight this till the last gallon is drawn from our earth.
  • gregglgreggl Posts: 21,594 Officer
    Scoutboat wrote: »
    Big oil will fight this till the last gallon is drawn from our earth.

    Middle East knows they need positioning for post-oil. If they invest heavily, our domestic players become a liability.

    The incentives are meant to combat this.
  • tennmiketennmike Posts: 400 Deckhand
    Ethanol is not all that and a bag of chips. It takes more ethanol injected to the cylinder to derive the same amount of power as a lesser amount of gasoline. Anybody that did any dirt track racing with ethanol fueled cars knows that. The engine management computers make it a lot better than it used to be, but no getting around the fact that weight for weight, ethanol has less Btu/gal than gasoline.

    The biodiesel fuel is a good idea if they can produce it on a large scale. Lots of good ideas that work in the lab tend to fall flat when scaled up. They can use all that land in Nevada that was used for nuclear warhead testing to put up the plant to produce the algae diesel fuel. A little enhanced background radiation isn't going to make much difference.
  • gregglgreggl Posts: 21,594 Officer
    We're looking at lots of hybrids and trending reduction of vehicle ownership as a status symbol. Self driving and fly by wire systems are also nearing deployment.

    Systems will be engineered around energy related business verticals.
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