Thief and Traitor nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize

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(CNN) -- Two Norwegian lawmakers have jointly nominated National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden for the Nobel Peace Prize, they said Wednesday on their party website.

Snowden has "revealed the nature and technological prowess of modern surveillance," and by doing so has contributed to peace, said a joint statement by Bard Vegar Solhjell and Snorre Valen of the Socialist Left Party.
Nominations for this year's Nobel Peace Prize -- whose previous winners include such figures as the late South African President Nelson Mandela, Myanmar opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi and President Barack Obama -- close on Saturday, with the winner announced in October.

According to the Norwegian Nobel Committee's rules, Solhjell and Valen are qualified, as national lawmakers, to make a nomination. The names of each year's nominees are not revealed until 50 years later.

"There is no doubt that the actions of Edward Snowden may have damaged the security interests of several nations in the short term. We do not necessarily condone or support all of his disclosures," said the statement by Solhjell and Valen.

"We are, however, convinced that the public debate and changes in policy that have followed in the wake of Snowden's whistleblowing has contributed to a more stable and peaceful world order.

"His actions have in effect led to the reintroduction of trust and transparency as a leading principle in global security policies. Its value can't be overestimated."

Snowden remains in Russia, where he was granted one year's asylum in June.
In the United States, he faces charges of espionage and theft of government property over the leaking of sensational details of spy programs.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/29/world/europe/norway-snowden-nobel-nomination/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
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  • treemanjohntreemanjohn Posts: 3,867 Captain
    Somewhere between a traitor and a hero (leaning towards a hero of course)
    We’re like the piggy bank that everybody is robbing, and that ends President Trump
  • Billy No MatesBilly No Mates Posts: 3,033 Captain
    If Yasser Arafat can win it, I wouldn't be surprised to see George Zimmerman get nominated.
  • Gary S. ColecchioGary S. Colecchio Posts: 24,922 AG
    Quisling.
    "If I can't win, I won't play." - Doris Colecchio.

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  • MadbeachMadbeach On the riverPosts: 970 Officer
    Quisling.

    That can be said. This could also describe congress/president(s) for encroaching on our 4th amendment right.
  • JKPJKP Posts: 2,998 Captain
    Quisling.

    I get the Norwegian link, but what occupying force is Snowden aiding?

    My $.02 - he is guilty of espionage irrespective of the politics associated with what he made public.
  • Michael RepperMichael Repper Posts: 4,897 Officer
    He exposed the wrongdoings of the government against the American people. He should be applauded for setting in motion a campaign to reform the surveillance state. The fact is that it is a ravenous bureaucracy with a black budget, a bottomless gullet, and the power to blackmail anyone in the world. They turned their weapons inward and against us. These shadowy government organizations which are built upon a foundation of lies, blackmail, and murder deserve the increased scrutiny of the American citizenry since they have shown themselves incompetent in choosing their targets and in preventing terrorist attacks.
  • WaterEngineerWaterEngineer Posts: 24,415 AG
    Quisling.

    Wrong use of the word.
  • No it's not. A Norweigen wood get it.
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  • sjm1582002sjm1582002 Posts: 4,332 Captain
    I bet he wins.

    A fitting rebuke for the government that considers everyone an enemy.
  • WaterEngineerWaterEngineer Posts: 24,415 AG
    No it's not. A Norweigen wood get it.

    I knew you couldn't resist and would bite. What part of "occupying force" do you not get? Sorry Gary, you are a bright guy but you were a little too clever for yourself this time and over played your hand. :blowkiss
  • I am disappointed that you wood not return the favor of the pun.

    The irony, clear only to me I guess, was that traitorous conduct confused with patriotism is what Norway is so well known for, that they have a word for it which was also the name of it's most notorious statesman.

    So this action in Norwegian sympathy for this guy wood not be surprising to anyone, unless of course they would rather finely parse terminology:

    In contemporary usage, quisling is synonymous with traitor, and particularly applied to politicians who appear to favour the interests of other nations or cultures over their own. In American English, the term is less well known than the equivalent phrase Benedict Arnold.
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  • CaptTaterCaptTater Posts: 20,096 AG
    Obama won for nothing....nothing. The prize means nothing anymore.
    Oh and **** and Stalin were both nominated.. Snowden, at least did something good for the world, though a traitor.
    I did not read the story but if you take tax payers money maybe you should be held to some standards.-Cyclist
    when we say the same thing about welfare recipients, you cry like a wounded buffalo Sopchoppy
    It's their money, they spend it how they like. Truth and honesty have nothing to do with it. - Mr Jr
    "“A radical is one who advocates sweeping changes in the existing laws and methods of government.” "
  • 2true2true Posts: 2,112 Captain
    Actually Gary is right. We could look at the current administration as an occupying force.......
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  • 2true2true Posts: 2,112 Captain
    Oh and hello to politics!
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  • frankfrank Posts: 13,292 AG
    In contemporary usage, quisling is synonymous with traitor, and particularly applied to politicians who appear to favour the interests of other nations or cultures over their own. In American English, the term is less well known than the equivalent phrase Benedict Arnold.

    but isn't good that snowden had the courage to see a wrong and do something about it
    the nsa program of seizing and holding our correspondence is clearly a violation of the fourth amendment
    regardless of what our out of control government says to the contrary
    No political signature
  • 2true2true Posts: 2,112 Captain
    Adolf **** was nominated once in 1939. Incredulous though it may seem today, the **** dictator Adolf **** was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize in 1939, by a member of the Swedish parliament, an E.G.C. Brandt. Apparently though, Brandt never intended the nomination to be taken seriously. Brandt was to all intents and purposes a dedicated antifascist, and had intended this nomination more as a satiric criticism of the current political debate in Sweden. (At the time, a number of Swedish parliamentarians had nominated then British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlin for the Nobel Peace Prize, a nomination which Brandt viewed with great skepticism. ) However, Brandt's satirical intentions were not well received at all and the nomination was swiftly withdrawn in a letter dated 1 February 1939.
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  • frank wrote: »
    but isn't good that snowden had the courage to see a wrong and do something about it
    the nsa program of seizing and holding our correspondence is clearly a violation of the fourth amendment
    regardless of what our out of control government says to the contrary

    It appears that Norwegians would agree.
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  • mississippi macmississippi mac Posts: 4,222 Captain
    He exposed the wrongdoings of the government against the American people. He should be applauded for setting in motion a campaign to reform the surveillance state. The fact is that it is a ravenous bureaucracy with a black budget, a bottomless gullet, and the power to blackmail anyone in the world. They turned their weapons inward and against us. These shadowy government organizations which are built upon a foundation of lies, blackmail, and murder deserve the increased scrutiny of the American citizenry since they have shown themselves incompetent in choosing their targets and in preventing terrorist attacks.

    yup....
    whistle blower...
    now we know how the gub'mit has been usurping or constitional rights...
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  • CaptTaterCaptTater Posts: 20,096 AG
    yup....
    whistle blower...
    now we know how the gub'mit has been usurping or constitional rights...

    and you love you some obama too.

    So much for Obama's promise to support whistleblowers reporting when the laws of this country are trampled on. Just another lie from your savior.
    I did not read the story but if you take tax payers money maybe you should be held to some standards.-Cyclist
    when we say the same thing about welfare recipients, you cry like a wounded buffalo Sopchoppy
    It's their money, they spend it how they like. Truth and honesty have nothing to do with it. - Mr Jr
    "“A radical is one who advocates sweeping changes in the existing laws and methods of government.” "
  • mississippi macmississippi mac Posts: 4,222 Captain
    CaptTater wrote: »
    and you love you some obama too.

    So much for Obama's promise to support whistleblowers reporting when the laws of this country are trampled on. Just another lie from your savior.

    and you would be wrong....
    i've been done with obama for a long time...
    don't ever assume anything about me or my politics...
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  • WaterEngineerWaterEngineer Posts: 24,415 AG
    I am disappointed that you wood not return the favor of the pun.

    I thought I would leave this right here for all to consider for a moment. I guess Gary can make a mistake, if he wants to admit it or not.
  • I thought I would leave this right here for all to consider for a moment. I guess Gary can make a mistake, if he wants to admit it or not.
    :rolleyes The pun referenced earlier. The play on words. The Beatles.
    frank wrote: »
    ...isn't (it) good
    A Norwegian wood get it.
    ... Norwegians would ...

    I tried to make it obvious, butt (hurt that your little Google expedition for Quisling didn't yield the contemporary usage) ...
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  • stc1993stc1993 Albany, GA Carrabelle, FLPosts: 6,121 Admiral
    He was nominated by 2 of the socialist left party. I suppose if they gave Obama one they might as well give Snowden one too. I bet Alfred is spinning in his grave.
  • stc1993stc1993 Albany, GA Carrabelle, FLPosts: 6,121 Admiral
    I got it Gary. I had to look the word up though.:)
  • brentsumbrentsum Posts: 1,618 Officer
    The pun was great, but I thought it was this little sexual thriller:
  • :Spittingcoffee
    "If I can't win, I won't play." - Doris Colecchio.

    "Well Gary, the easiest way to look tall is to stand in a room full of short people." - Curtis Bostick

    "All these forums, with barely any activity, are like a neglected old cemetery that no one visits anymore."- anonymouse
  • Michael RepperMichael Repper Posts: 4,897 Officer
    :rolleyes The pun referenced earlier. The play on words. The Beatles.





    I tried to make it obvious, butt (hurt that your little Google expedition for Quisling didn't yield the contemporary usage) ...
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    This calls for a defenestration!
  • "If I can't win, I won't play." - Doris Colecchio.

    "Well Gary, the easiest way to look tall is to stand in a room full of short people." - Curtis Bostick

    "All these forums, with barely any activity, are like a neglected old cemetery that no one visits anymore."- anonymouse
  • CaptTaterCaptTater Posts: 20,096 AG
    and you would be wrong....
    i've been done with obama for a long time...
    don't ever assume anything about me or my politics...

    Did you vote for him or not? :drink

    Got news for you.. obama has never changed. He's been a liar and cheat his whole life. The last 40yrs of dems have been the same.
    I did not read the story but if you take tax payers money maybe you should be held to some standards.-Cyclist
    when we say the same thing about welfare recipients, you cry like a wounded buffalo Sopchoppy
    It's their money, they spend it how they like. Truth and honesty have nothing to do with it. - Mr Jr
    "“A radical is one who advocates sweeping changes in the existing laws and methods of government.” "
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