My custom kitchen now feels like an operating room...

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  • Mister-JrMister-Jr Posts: 27,698 AG
    grady30wa wrote: »
    Is this Obama's way of stimulating the economy? Purposely making obsolete all of your old stuff?

    I spend a $163 on new bulbs and dimmers today. I stimulated someone, somewhere with their job, perhaps the HD clerk.
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  • Mister-JrMister-Jr Posts: 27,698 AG
    Oldfox1939 wrote: »
    Went to Lowes today and stocked up on the old type bulbs…….now have 3 dozen 65 watt indoor floods.

    They were out of 75 watt bulbs but plenty of 60 watt left.

    Temporary fix, unless you are 80.
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  • Oldfox1939Oldfox1939 Posts: 521 Officer
    They will be included in our will.
  • FloydFloyd ; in N. Tampa or DownEast MainePosts: 1,102 Officer
    For those of you thinking of stockpiling a lifetime supply of incandescent bulbs, consider this.

    LED bulbs are smaller, cooler, can be configured into many forms and shapes and colors, and consume a fraction of the power of incandescent. As time goes by and the industry takes advantage of the tech advances in LED we will be seeing a ton of very desirable lighting applications that will make ordinary old bulbs a poor substitute. LED bulbs do cost more now, but considering their long life they will not be all that much more expensive(if any) than incandescent in the near future as they become the standard application for lighting needs.

    CFL bulbs are just an interim technology that was necessary while high-output LED technology was being developed, and will probably go away.

    My guess is that many of the bulbs people are stockpiling today will be seen at garage sales in the future.
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  • Panhandler80Panhandler80 Posts: 8,089 Moderator
    Floyd wrote: »
    For those of you thinking of stockpiling a lifetime supply of incandescent bulbs, consider this.

    LED bulbs are smaller, cooler, can be configured into many forms and shapes and colors, and consume a fraction of the power of incandescent. As time goes by and the industry takes advantage of the tech advances in LED we will be seeing a ton of very desirable lighting applications that will make ordinary old bulbs a poor substitute. LED bulbs do cost more now, but considering their long life they will not be all that much more expensive(if any) than incandescent in the near future as they become the standard application for lighting needs.

    CFL bulbs are just an interim technology that was necessary while high-output LED technology was being developed, and will probably go away.

    My guess is that many of the bulbs people are stockpiling today will be seen at garage sales in the future.

    DO NOT TELL ME HOW TO SAVE MONEY OR WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE A GOOD SUBSTITUTE FO IN MY HOME.

    Interesting avatar you have considering this post.
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  • jad1097jad1097 Posts: 9,610 Admiral
    Lets see, $10 for a box of 24 60 watt incandescent bulbs or $240 for 24 "60 W Equivalent" LED bulbs. The cost of replacing all the dimmers needs to be considered as well.
  • Panhandler80Panhandler80 Posts: 8,089 Moderator
    Forget about cost. Let me buy what I want, and others can buy what they want!

    Absolute absurdity. Of course I guess it is to be expected. We did pay people $5,000 to literally crush functioning vehicles so that they could buy $45,000 hybrids. Talk about a tax break for the 1% and fake industry.
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  • FloydFloyd ; in N. Tampa or DownEast MainePosts: 1,102 Officer
    DO NOT TELL ME HOW TO SAVE MONEY OR WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE A GOOD SUBSTITUTE FO IN MY HOME.

    Interesting avatar you have considering this post.

    Your comment is wrong on two counts.
    1. Nobody is telling you what to do.
    2. My avatar, indicating that I abhor excessive governmental regulation, in this case has nothing to do with my observations regarding the development of LED technology.

    LED technology would have eventually been seen as a superior technology, though government restrictions on incandescent bulbs have no doubt speeded up the introduction of LCD bulbs.
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  • NOLE66NOLE66 Posts: 1,630 Officer
    jad1097 wrote: »
    Lets see, $10 for a box of 24 60 watt incandescent bulbs or $240 for 24 "60 W Equivalent" LED bulbs. The cost of replacing all the dimmers needs to be considered as well.

    If the "old type" bulbs will no longer be available, how are the poor (Obama voters) going to afford to have lights? Who is responsible for us now having to buy MUCH more expensive lightbulbs. Oh, and evidently these new bulbs carry a decent amount of mercury in them. Looks like a potential pollution problem cuz people, for the most part! aren't going to be willing to take time out of their already busy schedules to properly dispose of these bulbs.

    Why can't I buy whatever bulb I choose? **** govt intervention again!!

    Headed to Lowes to stockpile the old bulbs so I won't have to spend what I consider a ridiculous amount of money for a friggin lightbulb of all things. This whole thing is silly.
  • NOLE66NOLE66 Posts: 1,630 Officer
    Mister-Jr wrote: »
    I spend a $163 on new bulbs and dimmers today. I stimulated someone, somewhere with their job, perhaps the HD clerk.

    You stimulated those that love to control every aspect of our lives=liberals
  • Panhandler80Panhandler80 Posts: 8,089 Moderator
    Floyd wrote: »
    LED technology would have eventually been seen as a superior technology,

    Speculation to the ^N degree.
    Floyd wrote: »
    government restrictions on incandescent bulbs have no doubt speeded up the introduction of LCD bulbs.

    Fact, Jack! Fact that is unquestionably accompanied by a removal of choice. Of course, that's the way it goes with government, is it not?
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  • Panhandler80Panhandler80 Posts: 8,089 Moderator
    NOLE66 wrote: »
    You stimulated those that love to control every aspect of our lives=liberals

    Roger that! You must be talking about the tolerant folks, right? "Any opinion is tolerated so long as it's our opinion."

    So freakin' sick of it. Sometimes it feels like I'm the only one. At least I live in NW Florida. I seriously can't imagine how folks in S Fl, or the sane individuals in blue states deal with it.
    "Whatcha doin' in my waters?"
  • Panhandler80Panhandler80 Posts: 8,089 Moderator
    NOLE66 wrote: »
    If the "old type" bulbs will no longer be available, how are the poor (Obama voters) going to afford to have lights? Who is responsible for us now having to buy MUCH more expensive lightbulbs. Oh, and evidently these new bulbs carry a decent amount of mercury in them. Looks like a potential pollution problem cuz people, for the most part! aren't going to be willing to take time out of their already busy schedules to properly dispose of these bulbs.

    Why can't I buy whatever bulb I choose? **** govt intervention again!!

    Headed to Lowes to stockpile the old bulbs so I won't have to spend what I consider a ridiculous amount of money for a friggin lightbulb of all things. This whole thing is silly.

    Answer: "They save you money in the long run"

    I wonder how many O-voters "own" a house / car they can't afford with absurd loan terms. How is that cheaper in the long run?

    Or better yet, the ones that have that Mercedes on lease. Hahaha. Of course sometimes there's nothing wrong with renting.... Case in point: I'd rather rent my light bulbs and spent the $45 on something for me and my wife.
    "Whatcha doin' in my waters?"
  • Mister-JrMister-Jr Posts: 27,698 AG
    Roger that! You must be talking about the tolerant folks, right? "Any opinion is tolerated so long as it's our opinion."

    So freakin' sick of it. Sometimes it feels like I'm the only one. At least I live in NW Florida. I seriously can't imagine how folks in S Fl, or the sane individuals in blue states deal with it.

    Personally, I don't what you do or where you live. Somewhere Thomas Edison weeps, perhaps you could join him.
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  • Mister-JrMister-Jr Posts: 27,698 AG
    Answer: "They save you money in the long run"

    I wonder how many O-voters "own" a house / car they can't afford with absurd loan terms. How is that cheaper in the long run?

    Or better yet, the ones that have that Mercedes on lease. Hahaha. Of course sometimes there's nothing wrong with renting.... Case in point: I'd rather rent my light bulbs and spent the $45 on something for me and my wife.

    Someone here is sure intolerant of others life choices, and it ain't me.
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  • Mister-JrMister-Jr Posts: 27,698 AG
    NOLE66 wrote: »
    You stimulated those that love to control every aspect of our lives=liberals

    Do as you please, I'm happy with this.
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  • jad1097jad1097 Posts: 9,610 Admiral
    NOLE66 wrote: »
    If the "old type" bulbs will no longer be available, how are the poor (Obama voters) going to afford to have lights?

    Who is responsible for us now having to buy MUCH more expensive lightbulbs.


    Oh, and evidently these new bulbs carry a decent amount of mercury in them. Looks like a potential pollution problem cuz people, for the most part! aren't going to be willing to take time out of their already busy schedules to properly dispose of these bulbs.

    Why can't I buy whatever bulb I choose? **** govt intervention again!!

    Headed to Lowes to stockpile the old bulbs so I won't have to spend what I consider a ridiculous amount of money for a friggin lightbulb of all things. This whole thing is silly.

    The same way the inbred trailer trash Romney voters will afford them.

    Bush signed the bill.


    All light bulbs contain toxic metals.;) LED's have little, if any, mercury.



    The ban is stupid.
  • mjnmjn Posts: 1,574 Captain
    This cracks me up.

    Take away /ban/ or make illegal something you dont care about, no big deal. But take away a simple freedom that is of great unimportance in the grand scheme of things and its time to fight...as it should be. I don't like incandescent bulbs they burn out too fast and cost me money. I have all CFLs. Ive had 1 break in 10 years and have had to replace maybe 5 or 6(out of 30) in the last 7 to 10 years. Mostly burn outs are the ones I have on incorrect dimmers.

    But I will fight with you to keep incandescent legal/unbanned.

    Would you fight with someone else if you didn't give a crap about what is being banned?
  • restlessnativerestlessnative Posts: 2,139 Captain
    Hi politics section.
  • Panhandler80Panhandler80 Posts: 8,089 Moderator
    I don't give a flying screw who signed it. Bush or otherwise. I am a registeredrepublican and for the last 5 or 6 years of his presidency I considered him a terrible friend of freedom and a poor president. Little did I know how bad it could really be or how far a child from Illinois and members of Congress would run with the availability of unbridled power that Bush helped create.

    Couple that with an uneducated and near sighted electorate, and politicians' ability to to sleep at night after encouraging stupidity for votes, and you have what we face today.

    "Do as you please" from above... I'd love to. Unfortunately that's not an option, dumb ***.

    I love how reluctant democrats are to critique their own.

    Yes, I would fight for another's right to freedom if I had no eVen if I had no personal interest.
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  • Panhandler80Panhandler80 Posts: 8,089 Moderator
    Posting from phone is difficult. Smoking some pork shoulders now while its still legal. All that corn to the pig... All that corn that could have gone in our gas tanks instead of food stamp recipients stomachs. Plus the carbon I'm letting lose now... Oh boy! Oh, and the steel that had to be mined for the smoker. Next year I'll be breaking a dozen lawsjustby wawaking up in the morning.
    "Whatcha doin' in my waters?"
  • Mister-JrMister-Jr Posts: 27,698 AG
    I don't give a flying screw who signed it. Bush or otherwise. I am a registeredrepublican and for the last 5 or 6 years of his presidency I considered him a terrible friend of freedom and a poor president. Little did I know how bad it could really be or how far a child from Illinois and members of Congress would run with the availability of unbridled power that Bush helped create.

    Couple that with an uneducated and near sighted electorate, and politicians' ability to to sleep at night after encouraging stupidity for votes, and you have what we face today.

    "Do as you please" from above... I'd love to. Unfortunately that's not an option, dumb ***.

    I love how reluctant democrats are to critique their own.

    Yes, I would fight for another's right to freedom if I had no eVen if I had no personal interest.

    How do you react when something really goes wrong?
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  • Panhandler80Panhandler80 Posts: 8,089 Moderator
    I act, that's for sure.

    Happy New Year.
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  • Mister-JrMister-Jr Posts: 27,698 AG

    Happy New Year.

    Same to you.
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  • Larry MacLarry Mac Posts: 5,465 Admiral
    pupraiser wrote: »
    cfl's shouldn't be hooked to a dimmer switch. Don't know why but that is what I heard.

    Pups correct. I bought a dimmer for CFL lights and it works slightly to a point and then turns off totally . And it was supposed to be a dimmer for CFLs
  • FloydFloyd ; in N. Tampa or DownEast MainePosts: 1,102 Officer
    If you're worried about losing the availability of the incandescent bulbs, then read this. The rough-service bulbs and some other odd wattages are still going to be available.

    http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/1/5263826/the-incandescent-light-bulb-isnt-dead
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  • stc1993stc1993 Albany, GA Carrabelle, FLPosts: 6,116 Admiral
    It's the CFL's that have the mercury in them. They aren't suppose to be put in the trash. But put in the recycle bins, how many people are actually going to do this? I would be willing to bet not very many. It's going to get where you can't even eat fish anymore. To much mercury some places are already like that. That's where the old saying comes from "mad as a hatter" they used mercury in making felt from the beaver skins for hats in the 1700-1800's.
  • jad1097jad1097 Posts: 9,610 Admiral
    I don't give a flying screw who signed it. Bush or otherwise. I am a registeredrepublican and for the last 5 or 6 years of his presidency I considered him a terrible friend of freedom and a poor president. Little did I know how bad it could really be or how far a child from Illinois and members of Congress would run with the availability of unbridled power that Bush helped create.

    Couple that with an uneducated and near sighted electorate, and politicians' ability to to sleep at night after encouraging stupidity for votes, and you have what we face today.

    "Do as you please" from above... I'd love to. Unfortunately that's not an option, dumb ***.

    I love how reluctant democrats are to critique their own.

    Yes, I would fight for another's right to freedom if I had no eVen if I had no personal interest.


    He asked and I told him who's fault it was.

    I am not a democrat.
  • jad1097jad1097 Posts: 9,610 Admiral
    Larry Mac wrote: »
    Pups correct. I bought a dimmer for CFL lights and it works slightly to a point and then turns off totally . And it was supposed to be a dimmer for CFLs

    Are you sure you have a dimmable CFL?
  • anglingarchitectanglingarchitect Posts: 1,492 Officer
    If you want dimmable CFL's you got to pay even more for them.

    No more warming your hands while the family is crowded around the 150 watt incandescent bulb on those cold panhandle nights in the shack at 2 mile.
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