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  • Big MakBig Mak Posts: 6,112 Admiral
    Well in keeping with the topic at hand, from what I can see in Slayer52s thread with those teal and bbwds that he killed in Public Hunters back yard, there ARE ducks outside the STAs! Apparently Hunter hasn't found them though.
  • PinmanPinman Posts: 3,793 Captain
    Big Mak wrote: »
    Well in keeping with the topic at hand, from what I can see in Slayer52s thread with those teal and bbwds that he killed in Public Hunters back yard, there ARE ducks outside the STAs! Apparently Hunter hasn't found them though.

    Go Scout! (not my words)
  • Big MakBig Mak Posts: 6,112 Admiral
    Pinman wrote: »
    Go Scout! (not my words)

    Could that be considered a paradigm shift?
  • GT FishGT Fish Posts: 9,448 Officer
    Can i get a list of who is on the same page? This is cornfusin!:shrug
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  • ChetChet Posts: 292 Deckhand
    Pinman wrote: »
    Publichunter,

    It's been a pleasure helping to point out how wrong you and your Restrictionist cohorts are. Because there is nothing I have ever seen in my 39 years of hunting that is more dangerous to this sport I love than you all asking for a 4 day per week reduction in hunting access. Thankfully you never had a leg to stand on. 70% of respondents agree.

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    True that!

    I can just see Anti hunting groups at meetings, "well people in other parts of the state are OK with 2 days a week hunting". What a victory it would be for them. All because for some people a good duck hunt is measured in the amount of ducks taken.
  • bonebone Posts: 1,171 Officer
    Amazing how Florida has the best public duck hunting in the country, not only in the STAs, and everyone wants to complain either way. Where else can you catch a sailfish, shoot a duck, and hit a high end strip club all within 30 miles? Wake up folks. I have a buddy in Wyoming that wants to trade me an antelope hunt for a chance at a mottled duck. Are you kidding me? He will be down next year. I hear stories of public duck hunts in other states. I don't think we want any of that.
  • huntmstrhuntmstr Posts: 6,290 Admiral
    Amen Bone. One trip to Bayou Meto and you'll be cured from public water duck hunting in Arkansas for life. A 6 shell limit and only 4 birds allowed. The mad dash at 4:00 am alone makes Merritt Island look like a potato sack race compared to the demolission derby that is Bayou Meto.
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  • Weed LineWeed Line Posts: 177 Officer
    Bone- im new to the sport. I couldn't agree more. The access compared to other places is amazing here as well
  • N. CookN. Cook Posts: 2,309 Captain
    Bone......You are 200% correct.....I am amazed at all the controversy there is in a state with the easiest and most accessible public duck hunting I have experienced or know of.....Might be a few more places in low populated states, but nowhere with as many urban areas...I have been fortunate to hunt in some of the best....mostly Miss. River bottoms...from W. TN to MS...and at Reelfoot and the rivers in W. TN...and the TN river, Lots of public water, but often really difficult to access without expensive (and safe) rigs...

    Great fun....lots of ducks and geese occassionally...but, except for a few very isolated places...crowded... and too many days watching empty skies....And nearly always, if you lived in a city, requiring a long journey by vehicle and boat to find good public marsh hunting...

    We have a great situation for the public marsh duck hunters in Florida and we need to enjoy it more and complain less...
  • godvlmangodvlman Posts: 455 Deckhand
    Hunter,

    Since I am lacking specifics... let me add this... As of 12/28/13 :

    TMG = 3.4 Birds per Hunter

    STA 5 = 3.5 Birds per Hunter (about = )

    STA 1 = 2.9 Birds per Hunter (Saturday)

    STA 1 = 3.1 Birds per Hunter (Sunday)

    STA 2 = 3.5 Birds per Hunter (About =)

    STA 3/4 = 4.1 Birds per Hunter ( More than TMG)

    STA 3/4 = 1.8 Birds per Hunter (Sunday)

    I see one STA with an obvious larger BBH than TMG

    My question to you is where are all these ducks that the Boat Ramp Biologists are seeing in the STA's, from your part of the State? Should us waterfowlers down South here be complaining that TMG is short stopping our birds? Should we demand that TMG be open more days a week and hunted during the afternoon hours? Where would you like to draw the line?

    This all started years ago in the name of Conservation, whats best for the ducks? Yet this year I havent heard a word about Conservation, or the welfare of the ducks except the KCOL. Selfish, self serving, vendettas perhaps, all come to mind before the word Conservation.
  • Capt Jeff KraynikCapt Jeff Kraynik Posts: 585 Officer
    N. Cook wrote: »
    Bone......You are 200% correct.....I am amazed at all the controversy there is in a state with the easiest and most accessible public duck hunting I have experienced or know of.....Might be a few more places in low populated states, but nowhere with as many urban areas...I have been fortunate to hunt in some of the best....mostly Miss. River bottoms...from W. TN to MS...and at Reelfoot and the rivers in W. TN...and the TN river, Lots of public water, but often really difficult to access without expensive (and safe) rigs...

    Great fun....lots of ducks and geese occassionally...but, except for a few very isolated places...crowded... and too many days watching empty skies....And nearly always, if you lived in a city, requiring a long journey by vehicle and boat to find good public marsh hunting...

    We have a great situation for the public marsh duck hunters in Florida and we need to enjoy it more and complain less...


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    Did NC just make a post w/o mentioning the pay site???

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  • On ContingencyOn Contingency Posts: 77 Deckhand
    I was thinking the same thing. You know marketing is in his blood. Too bad the product is tougher to sell these days.
  • dukhuntr1991dukhuntr1991 Posts: 308 Deckhand
    huntmstr wrote: »
    Amen Bone. One trip to Bayou Meto and you'll be cured from public water duck hunting in Arkansas for life. A 6 shell limit and only 4 birds allowed. The mad dash at 4:00 am alone makes Merritt Island look like a potato sack race compared to the demolission derby that is Bayou Meto.

    We used to make an annual trip to Arkansas and hunted bayou meto several times. It was a 15 shell limit when we went but really we killed more birds in there than a lot of private fields we got to hunt. The best part is listening to guys screaming at each other through the timber for shooting their "swing ducks". That was worth the price of admission.
  • publichunterpublichunter Posts: 1,180 Officer
    It still is 15 shells....the statement about it being 6 is just another lie. 4 bird limit because people go there to shoot greenheads because that's what the locals want to do. Locally driven rules...imagine that.
  • Capt Jeff KraynikCapt Jeff Kraynik Posts: 585 Officer
    It still is 15 shells....the statement about it being 6 is just another lie. 4 bird limit because people go there to shoot greenheads because that's what the locals want to do. Locally driven rules...imagine that.

    Me thinks you're a little off base their in regards to locally driven rules.

    No one asked for the shell limits.

    It was "imposed" by the Wildlife Commission due to the place being a zoo with locals & out-of-towners alike.

    It was an enforcement nightmare!!!

    A "no entry" rule was also "imposed" due to hunters camping out in holes all night.

    "Guides" are no longer allowed to guided on BM on the weekends.

    As far as locally driven rules & your sacred MOC, I was at meetings & JB stated that over (77%) seventy-seven percent of the "no change" responses came from Brevard & the surrounding counties.

    If that is no locally driven what is???

    Face it, your proposal was shot down & stopped in its tracks.

    Deal with it!!!:banghead

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  • Big MakBig Mak Posts: 6,112 Admiral
    I knew he'd be back... I just thought it would have been sooner. I expect the village idiot to weigh in soon too.
  • publichunterpublichunter Posts: 1,180 Officer
    Bet you were about to wet yourself with anticipation. And I'm not back to debate as I said I was done with it but I will continue to point out lies.
  • PinmanPinman Posts: 3,793 Captain
    It still is 15 shells....the statement about it being 6 is just another lie. 4 bird limit because people go there to shoot greenheads because that's what the locals want to do. Locally driven rules...imagine that.

    15 shells is correct but it is 4 ducks (3 Mallards). Lie is such a harsh word Hunter. Are you lying about being able to shoot 4 Greenheads?

    http://www.agfc.com/hunting/pages/wmadetails.aspx?show=010

    Your not very good at pointing out lies. Don't quit your day job!

    Welcome back!!!:blahblah
  • PinmanPinman Posts: 3,793 Captain
    Bet you were about to wet yourself with anticipation. And I'm not back to debate as I said I was done with it but I will continue to point out lies.

    On another forum you guys couldn't even define locals. Gimme a break.
  • Big MakBig Mak Posts: 6,112 Admiral
    Guess he lied about being done arguing on this thread with us drama queens too... Perhaps he should focus more on finding ducks rather than *****ing and whining about other peoples hunting methods and good fortune.
  • AMobleyAMobley Posts: 202 Deckhand
    Im glad you bozo's are 5 hours away! ill take pcs, swamp ponds, and farm fields any day (even if there aren't birds here half the time) over traveling south of Orlando into that circus refer to as So. Fla.

    Get a grip gentlemen!
  • gator4evergator4ever Posts: 2,657 Captain
    AMobley wrote: »
    Im glad you bozo's are 5 hours away! ill take pcs, swamp ponds, and farm fields any day (even if there aren't birds here half the time) over traveling south of Orlando into that circus refer to as So. Fla.

    Get a grip gentlemen!

    We are sorry to hear that you do not want to drive so far.

    But we are just as happy to hear that you cannot stand South Florida we are overcrowded so stay in Orlando.
    "sometimes it's OK just to kill a little time" my grandpa 1972
  • AMobleyAMobley Posts: 202 Deckhand
    Im not in Orlando paw paw. That's central Florida. I believe up here in the peace and quiet, the place where you would love to find a hunt club. North Florida, Up south, however, most just call it Gods country!
  • Marx ManMarx Man Posts: 145 Officer
    AMobley wrote: »
    Im not in Orlando paw paw. That's central Florida. I believe up here in the peace and quiet, the place where you would love to find a hunt club. North Florida, Up south, however, most just call it Gods country!
    Why would I give 2 *****s about a central florida hunt club?? I can leave my house and be sailfishing (from couch to lines in the water) OR hunting big bucks (from couch to sitting in stand) in less than 45 minutes. If that ain't "Gods country", I don't know what is. Personally, I would never buy where your are. My point is, everyones opinion of "gods country" is different. I do agree with you in one way. I'd rather get 2 ducks all day hunting Lake O than limit out at an STA but STA is nice because it's close.
  • Marx ManMarx Man Posts: 145 Officer
    bone wrote: »
    Amazing how Florida has the best public duck hunting in the country, not only in the STAs, and everyone wants to complain either way. Where else can you catch a sailfish, shoot a duck, and hit a high end strip club all within 30 miles? Wake up folks. I have a buddy in Wyoming that wants to trade me an antelope hunt for a chance at a mottled duck. Are you kidding me? He will be down next year. I hear stories of public duck hunts in other states. I don't think we want any of that.
    I posted before I saw this. I couldn't imagine living anywhere else. I bought a house 1/8th mile from where I was raised and wouldn't have it any other way.
  • David BDavid B Posts: 1,907 Captain
    Sweet Baby Jesus what a thread.

    Even Daddy spoke up in favor of more hunting and less restrictions without using his business card.
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  • Big MakBig Mak Posts: 6,112 Admiral
    David B wrote: »
    Even Daddy spoke up in favor of more hunting and less restrictions without using his business card.

    Got it in writing this time, but in all probability, ”staff” might have sat up and taken notice if that business card was incorporated in the same sentence.
  • TGunnTGunn Posts: 1,921 Captain
    No ducks outside the STAs. No ducks at all.

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  • ChetChet Posts: 292 Deckhand
    Back in the 70's and until the early 80's there was a swamp on the west coast full of Pintails and Widgeon. It's called Chassahowitzka. It was a duck mecca. I scout it just about every year and a few years ago I saw one Widgeon. That's been it. You can't buy a duck in Chaz now. This place was and still is a hunt only Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday. In the mid to late 80's the ducks left. They just stopped coming. Couldn't have been the pressure because the "duck experts" say if you have three day a week pressure the ducks will stay around. Couldn't have been all of those nasty STA's because they didn't exist. You have for examples Merrit and Chaz where your wish is in effect and the results blow. Lets face it restrictions do nothing but take away opportunity.

    As for Moccc. we all know why that place was ruined. You can't shoot limits of Widgeon all most every day, get on the net and brag about it, lead people on all season and then tell them you'll post the spot up after the season is over. Then go back next year and not expect to see people who never even knew you could hunt there in the area. The place was blown up by the internet. Just go back to the clubs history. Read the thread when a daily count down to 100 widgeon was taken place. At the end of the thread when the location was posted look and see how many posted, "I never knew that place was huntable". And how many asked, "where is this place".

    Nothing like destroying your backyard and then blaming the damage on others. Loose lips run off ducks not pressure.
  • gator4evergator4ever Posts: 2,657 Captain
    Yeah when we found ducks back in the day. You either were family or a **** good friend before we said a word.

    Most of it was on private land but when I found ducks on the Big O it was hush.

    It is not a matter of being selfish it is a matter of preserving the spot for next time.

    Now when we had Dove Shoots everyone was welcomed.
    "sometimes it's OK just to kill a little time" my grandpa 1972
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