Handguns
Subscribe
Digital Now Included!
Current Subscribers Click Here.
Current Subscribers Click Here.
All Florida Sportsman subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets.
To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine.
Replies
Winning > Everything. Like it or not.
CFL is not even the same sport as the NFL.
If a NBA teams goes undefeated should they play in the World Series?
Same analogy you made.
I have never eaten a booger in my entire life. -Jim Harbaugh
This is my point exactly.
Herbie don't look so stupid now picking Toledo over UF for the season opener, does he?
:Sinking
I have never eaten a booger in my entire life. -Jim Harbaugh
No, neither team would be undefeated if they had A&M's schedule. No team in the country would.
But...since you brought up A&M lets talk about their near immediate success in the all mighty SEC. Same with Mizzou. Can you explain this?
I have never eaten a booger in my entire life. -Jim Harbaugh
Do you really think any other Big10 team is going to be in the NC picture in the next 10 years? Maybe Michigan.....that is all. So you know that your conference schedule is going to be weak for 10 years. You scheduled Cal....a team that may have been pretty good when you scheduled them but they are not a team you would expect to stay at that level. So you reached out to play the SEC and scheduled Vandy???? What, was Kentucky busy? Even though they were better than their norm.....they were still a subpar team as they were when you scheduled them. Then comes Buffalo and San Diego State and FAMU.......You have to work hard at finding teams that were actually weaker than your conference games.
So.....when you know that at least 7 of 8 of your games are going to be against teams that you greatly out weigh in the talent pool......you should make a better effort to schedule 3 or 4 real contenders for the Non-conf games. Teams like FSU and ND greatly need to give legitimacy to their schedules as well......yet you all avoid each other because you can.
How do you figure?
If you played a bunch of 6 yr olds in 1 on 1 in basketball you could probably stay undefeated. If you played a group of guys that play B-ball in Division 1 schools, you would probably lose most of those games.
Same thing can be said for FSU. They played a cupcake schdule. How many teams they played are still in the top 25? ( I count only 2. DUKE being 1 of them) The Gators have 5. To say that FSU didn't have it easier to get to # 1 is silly.
Pretty sure that the FL stands for Football League....much like it does in the NFL.
Same sport. The analogy is there you just dont want to face it.
That is why the system has to change....because winning has become everything and teams like OSU & fsu have avoided competition to get to the end undefeated.
Yes....He does. UF had the best defense in the country then and the offense was still full of potential.
North Dakota St is 12-0 this year.....in fact, over the past 3 years, they are something liike 43-2
Sure seems like they deserve a shot at the cfb NC. Don't you want to give them a shot?
FSU 66
OSU 61
UF 14
Bama 48
Aub 26
Mizz 41
UGA 8
Utah 1
I'd argue possibly MSU, Wisconsin and maybe a long shot being Penn ST.
CAL was a pretty decent team in the early 2000's. Top 10 consistently? No. Top 25? I think so.
I don't know how Vandy came about. The point was they scheduled an almighty SEC team. Perhaps if Vandy didn't back out you guys could have held hands around a campfire and chanted SEC together the night before. Instead FAMU took the pay check.
In the last 10 years OSU has scheduled Texas home and away, USC home and away, CAL home and away and I'm missing another school - mind is blank. Point is, OSU is trying to schedule at least one good nonconference game per year.
View OSU's future schedules and tell me what you have a problem with:
http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/big-ten/ohio-state-buckeyes.php
It isn't like people in Columbus are intentionally scheduling all MAC teams to beat up on before conference play. We had 4 night games this year, just to spice it up some too.
I have never eaten a booger in my entire life. -Jim Harbaugh
Davidson ranked at 251 is 28.45.
A foreign football league with different rules that don't even play on the same field is a different game, to me.
System is changing cowboy. Next year, conference champ goes to the national play off.
Can't wait to see the slew of tears coming from 1 loss SEC teams when they realize they all won't make it to the dance.
It's going to be epic.
I have never eaten a booger in my entire life. -Jim Harbaugh
Not really.
Even at the time a bet on Toledo was a winner.
I'd probably take them even up on a neutral site right now.
I have never eaten a booger in my entire life. -Jim Harbaugh
Yes.
Put them in coach.
I have never eaten a booger in my entire life. -Jim Harbaugh
Seriously? When has MSU & Wisc been even close to the picture??....and PSU will be reeling from sanctions for a very long time. You are soulding like Zimm.
So you take the runt of the pack and then declare you've taken on the mightiest of them all??? That's pretty weak.
Yep.....you occasionally schedule one historically strong team a couple of times each decade and have that make up for a weak conference while UF plays the SEC conference as well as fsu every year.
The only solution is to slim down the Div IA and have only top tier football programs play each other.
MSU is top 10 this year. Wiscy got boned in AZ. They are both solid programs.
And you are sounding like the other kum by yah sec fans.
And here I thought you knew how to be sarcastic.
Big Ten has not always been weak. Same as the SEC has not always been strong. It has only been the last decade for both schools, and if you are honest with yourself you know the SEC power came from the Big Ten. Take a look around your league and connect the dots.
That is a solution, but I wouldn't call it the only solution.
Another solution is to open the play off up to allow more teams. Get rid of OOC games all together and extend the play off to 16 or 32 teams.
Another solution is to stop scheduling games 10-15 years in advance. Schedule them maximum two years in advance.
I have never eaten a booger in my entire life. -Jim Harbaugh
The SEC is tougher than the SEC, fact.
We started at #12, took care of business, had a few lucky breaks and we're sitting at #1. SEC fans are so quick to discredit other teams without looking at the big picture. I agree what both of you are saying when it comes to strength of schedule, but do you really want to see two SEC teams (with two losses) play for the NCG? C'mon man.
NCAA football is a business, first and foremost. Take your SEC SOS and chuck it out the window. This isn't Boise state or Hawaii we're talking about. It's FLORIDA STATE and OHIO STATE...two of the biggest and most recognizable names in CFB whether you like it or not.
Would you argue that FSU vs OSU would be a HUGE draw for ratings, ticket $$$, and revenue for NCAA and the rose bowl as a whole? No, because y'all are intelligent men who understand that the all mighty dollar controls everything.
Will I be shocked when Auburn or Mizzou jumps OSU and plays FSU in the NCG? Nope, not one bit. FSU deserves to be in the NCG picture, OSU benefited from a Bama loss. If bama beats Auburn, it's FSU vs Bama (baring the SECCG) and OSU is on the outside looking in.....again. FSU vs a 1-loss SEC team would be the "best" game but not the most profitable. I honestly believe FSU will beat OSU by 2+ TD's due to their TERRIBLE, PUTRID defense. FSU vs Auburn/Mizzou is a close game for sure.
Guess what though? All of this will go out the window next year....PLAYOFFS
If they were this year?
1. FSU
2. OSU
3. Auburn
4. Alabama (that's 3 SEC schools)
Y'all will get your wish, I'm expecting at least 2+ SEC schools in the playoffs year in and year out. However, it will give the other conferences a chance to show that we can indeed beat an SEC school twice or three times (in FSU's case, who plays one each year)
SEC > ACC
ACC > B1G
The SEC homers are REALLY only P.O.ed because if FSU plays OSU it ends the SEC streak :wink
South Florida Chapter Coordinator
https://www.facebook.com/HOWSouthFloridaChapter
"Helping find peace for those who fought to defend it!" :USA
FREEDOM CAPTURED!
FSU Alumni GO NOLES!!! >>
>
2013 Hobie Outback
The SEC streak has to end some time....not skin off my back. I think the point has pretty well been made. The SEC is king of CFB.
Bama is probably the best team this year and would beat either fsu or osu easily.
Another swing and miss George.
I am a "fan" of good football.
Go Duke! Pssssssst what joke of a CCG. FSU should trot out the second string and hold on to a lil self respect.
You call me "dum dum" every time I post .... It hurts.
What I meant, was it's not the MAC, or MWC we're talking about. We weren't Boise this year, blowing out teams with little to no NFL talent. You'll never admit it, but the ACC does produce a decent amount of NFL talent (not SEC level, as that is one of the best recruiting tools that the SEC has. Come to bama, you'll get drafted etc) The ACC isn't exactly a desolate island void of talent, get a grip. Is the disparity between ACC and SEC great as a whole? Well, yeah....duh.
I just find it funny that the UF fans and SEC homers are SO QUICK to ride the coattails of a team that just joined a mere year ago, aka Mizzou. Chant SEC! SEC! SEC! all you want....they have no SEC tradition or long standing affiliation. They're the newbies.
I just wonder if FSU ever one day makes it into the SEC, will the homers still chant SEC! when we win? Doubtful.
Nobody has argued SEC > ACC, it's the blatant homer ism and quickness to criticize anything that isn't SEC. Then again, you're still licking your wounds from the beat down the Gata received from the ACC this year.
Bama is prob the best team in the country, but guess what....we'll never know if they'd beat FSU (Saban would mudhole OSU) because Saban gon' saban and got greedy as can be. Kick a darn FG from the 13yd line!
The best team in the country is the one holding the crystal ball at the end of the day :wink
South Florida Chapter Coordinator
https://www.facebook.com/HOWSouthFloridaChapter
"Helping find peace for those who fought to defend it!" :USA
FREEDOM CAPTURED!
FSU Alumni GO NOLES!!! >>
>
2013 Hobie Outback
I knew as soon as Alabama lost I would be reading this soon. We'll never really know, but that's a brash prediction after the way they played against Auburn.
You Gator fans are absolutely amazing. Were the situation reversed, and FSU was without a doubt the worst football tea in the whole friggin' state, and we were posting derogatory crap like you and your ilk, we would never hear the end of it. You would be whining until next year about what bad sports we are.
don't lump us all together, most GATORS fans are happy for fsu and wish them well and don't give a ratz **** for this conference nonsense
don't judge the GATOR nation based on some fools on a fishing forum
boom
You're right Frank, my apologies. And believe me my comments were only directed at the fools.
>>>>>>>loves Herbie.
and yes he does... they lost. duuuur.