The Destruction of Bimini!

SapingasKangas

How bout the distruction of thi Inglish lanwage

2amigo

SapingasKangas wrote: »

Listen small child, my cynicism keeps me well grounded. Remember, the Devil knows more from experience than from being the Devil. And the invasion has already occured and it's in the form of big business, little man.

I am probably older than you since I am almost 50. Everybody gets big business is screwing up everything. You would have to live in a hole to not know this but every now and then someone fights and wins. It has happened here in my own backyard and also over there, (the tuna netting plans that were fought) I can tell by your cynicism and your condescending tone to everyone on this forum (people that most likely have more experience than you in certain matters) that you must have lost all your battles and that is what keeps you so insecure. And 6'1 and 215 ain't so little.

2amigo

Testerman, I hate to agree with sappy but you do need to clean it up a little when you write. Very exhausting to try to read.

SapingasKangas

2amigo wrote: »

I am probably older than you since I am almost 50. Everybody gets big business is screwing up everything. You would have to live in a hole to not know this but every now and then someone fights and wins. It has happened here in my own backyard and also over there, (the tuna netting plans that were fought) I can tell by your cynicism and your condescending tone to everyone on this forum (people that most likely have more experience than you in certain matters) that you must have lost all your battles and that is what keeps you so insecure. And 6'1 and 215 ain't so little.

Sorry pal, older and smaller, though a Mizuno shall remedy the latter. I don't fight or loose all battles, I choose mine carefully. It seems ludicrous taking one on out of jurisdiction let alone a foreign country; tantamounts to pounding sand.

2amigo

SapingasKangas wrote: »

Sorry pal, older and smaller, though a Mizuno shall remedy the latter. I don't fight or loose all battles, I choose mine carefully. It seems ludicrous taking one on out of jurisdiction let alone a foreign country; tantamounts to pounding sand.

I agree to a degree, and I personally don't think anybody is changing the minds in charge of Bimini, ( I don't think in the long term it will work like every other project in the Bahamas) but if certain people choose to take this battle, then let em. Don't be so insulting to them if that's what they choose to do. By the way, what is a Mizuno

alacrity

isnt mizuno a brand of athletic wear and products? a leader in volleyball products IIRC.

alacrity

ubi est Obie Wilchcombe?

SapingasKangas

2amigo wrote: »

I agree to a degree, and I personally don't think anybody is changing the minds in charge of Bimini, ( I don't think in the long term it will work like every other project in the Bahamas) but if certain people choose to take this battle, then let em. Don't be so insulting to them if that's what they choose to do. By the way, what is a Mizuno

An aluminum Mizuno held firmly with both hands makes a short man (me) feel 6" taller. That's unless ofcourse you take it away from me and decide to hit doubles in the gap.

testerman28

well all I will say to this:
"How bout the distruction of thi Inglish lanwage'
and this:
"Testerman, I hate to agree with sappy but you do need to clean it up a little when you write. Very exhausting to try to read."

..is at least I have a voice and will speak up for whats right.. so when you look in the mirror next time see whats really bugging you.?!?

(Hope you both can understand that..)

2amigo

testerman28 wrote: »

well all I will say to this:
"How bout the distruction of thi Inglish lanwage'
and this:
"Testerman, I hate to agree with sappy but you do need to clean it up a little when you write. Very exhausting to try to read."

..is at least I have a voice and will speak up for whats right.. so when you look in the mirror next time see whats really bugging you.?!?

(Hope you both can understand that..)

Never had a problem with your "voice" but if you just put it down in type a little better, it would get across to a lot more people.

SapingasKangas

testerman28 wrote: »

well all I will say to this:
"How bout the distruction of thi Inglish lanwage'
and this:
"Testerman, I hate to agree with sappy but you do need to clean it up a little when you write. Very exhausting to try to read."

..is at least I have a voice and will speak up for whats right.. so when you look in the mirror next time see whats really bugging you.?!?

(Hope you both can understand that..)

Testy, we're cool, you're just a hippie.

dragon bait

SapingasKangas wrote: »

Testy, we're cool, you're just a hippie.

and you are still sipingpingas

SapingasKangas

dragon bait wrote: »

and you are still sipingpingas

...and you a miserable DragginQueen...

Biminiwall

I spoke to some friends in Bimini who claimed Resort World just booked Bimini sands for the entire 2014 year? It seems they are using it as a staging to start work on the south end? Seems they have bound up some acres of land to start some real high end development on the south end.

It seems resort world has taken over Bimini much like Atlantis took over paradise island.

snookyj

Biminiwall wrote: »

It seems resort world has taken over Bimini much like Atlantis took over paradise island.

+1

2fastlx

Biminiwall wrote: »

I spoke to some friends in Bimini who claimed Resort World just booked Bimini sands for the entire 2014 year?

Are you kidding me?

biminibrad

Partially true, my unit is not available for long term rentals. Some who do not come that often, unsold units and those that are behind are being rented out long term. My guess is 30% of the units.

Biminiwall

2fastlx wrote: »

Are you kidding me?

Wish I was. Even if the figure is 30%, that's going to make it a hell of a time trying to get a room there.

Bspot

Biminiwall wrote: »

I spoke to some friends in Bimini who claimed Resort World just booked Bimini sands for the entire 2014 year? It seems they are using it as a staging to start work on the south end? Seems they have bound up some acres of land to start some real high end development on the south end.

It seems resort world has taken over Bimini much like Atlantis took over paradise island.

RW bought 17 acres next to B Sands on the S side near the nature trail, paid **** $10M for it.

Twotall

Bspot wrote: »

RW bought 17 acres next to B Sands on the S side near the nature trail, paid **** $10M for it.

There planning to build a water park. Can't see how this is going to be viable !!!

INTREPID377

Twotall wrote: »

There planning to build a water park. Can't see how this is going to be viable !!!

This is a joke, right?

biminibrad

Nope, have heard of this in the works for 3 months now. Didn't want to say anything as I do not believe most people understand the power or will this company has. Take the Indian casinos times 10.

2fastlx

Seems like its going to be much worse than anticipated. Where's the next spot for weekend trips? West End?

SapingasKangas

I thought Bimini was already a water park, to me at least.

monkeybusinessjr

[email protected] Special wrote: »

Lets look at how things are done over here for a minute.

Port Everglades, multi million dollar economic engine for South Florida. In a big race to be one of the players for the new wider Panama Canal and they need the harbor deepening to do it. Every single politician at local, State and Federal level admit that they want the port expansion.

But, Fish and Wildlife has an issue with the reef impact. Its small (I am talking about direct impact, not indirect meaning coral that will actually be removed as part of the Dredging.)

However with this simple position by F&W, that dredging environmental impact statement cant get thru the process to even make it into the Water Resource bill to get funded. As for now, no dredging at Port Everglades.

The coral can be relocated just like being done in Miami, but the project can't get approval at this time.

Now lets go to Biscayne Bay and Genting property there. Seagrasses are one of the most difficult mitigation. Where are you going to mitigate dredging of seagrasses in the Bay for a private entity? Trust me, government is much smarter these days, we used to be able to get parks like John U Loydd to give us areas to do private mitigation projects, We also used to be able to do that in the bay. Now with limited mitigation areas, government is saving areas suitable for mitigation for their uses, and rarely let private mitigation take place on State land.

Mangrove mitigation is easy, Coral is harder but still relatively easy, but seagrass? not so easy , and not so successful.

In fact, the most suitable mitigation site in Biscayne bay for seagrass mitigation or transplant, is Julia Tuttle Causeway borrow hole to the North of the causeway. Sorry Genting, this is being used exclusively by Port of Miami to mitigate seagrass impact for that port dredging.

Genting can but the Miami Dade commission and mayor, but they will never get approval to use these lands for mitigation.

We cant' stop Genting in Bimini, but we can definitely stop them in Miami!

BTW, just the mitigation at Port of Miami has a $25 to $45 million price tag.

I admit that we are sticking our nose in the Bahamians business on the Bimini thing, but we can get Genting where it hurts when they try this in the US.

Sap, go away, but don't go away mad, you are totally out of your league on this issue. I have been doing projects just like this for well over 37 years.

Fish and Wildlife will approve the permit once the politics change in Washington. It's only a matter of time.

Don't be so naive to believe we don't have the same level of bribery and palm greasing here in the US, especially in Miami Dade County, as they have in the rest of the world . We're just a little more indirect about it.

testerman28

Miami got her 4 new cranes this week already they are very tall.. / easy to see now dropping for tile fish..

testerman28

just what we want in south florida.. more stuff from China.. more ballast water from where ever right beside some port that has dirty water and sewer issues..
maybe IF we wake the hell up Ron we can figure out how to spend the $ on education and some factories ,.. but I doubt if any money men will ever see it that way.. till it hurts them in the wallet or health of their families and then it will be way too late.

This year in the United States, shellfishery closings in six states -- four in the Northeast -- were attributed to Vibrio.

The researchers aren't sure why or how Vibrio has spread, but they suspect human interference. It's possible that ships' ballast water or long-distance shipping carried the bacteria to new regions, they suggested.

Moline said global warming may play a part in Vibrio's growth.

"Higher than normal seawater temperatures are associated with the increase in the prevalence of this bacterial strain and illnesses associated with it," Moline said.

As oceans continue to warm, more foodborne illnesses will likely appear, she said. "People need to be aware of how environmental changes may be affecting all of us, particularly in terms of food safety,"

SapingasKangas

testerman28 wrote: »

just what we want in south florida.. more stuff from China.. more ballast water from where ever right beside some port that has dirty water and sewer issues..
maybe IF we wake the hell up Ron we can figure out how to spend the $ on education and some factories ,.. but I doubt if any money men will ever see it that way.. till it hurts them in the wallet or health of their families and then it will be way too late.

This year in the United States, shellfishery closings in six states -- four in the Northeast -- were attributed to Vibrio.

The researchers aren't sure why or how Vibrio has spread, but they suspect human interference. It's possible that ships' ballast water or long-distance shipping carried the bacteria to new regions, they suggested.

Moline said global warming may play a part in Vibrio's growth.

"Higher than normal seawater temperatures are associated with the increase in the prevalence of this bacterial strain and illnesses associated with it," Moline said.

As oceans continue to warm, more foodborne illnesses will likely appear, she said. "People need to be aware of how environmental changes may be affecting all of us, particularly in terms of food safety,"

That's it, my girl is going to check her snagapuss for vibrio.

[email protected] Special

testerman28 wrote: »

just what we want in south florida.. more stuff from China.. more ballast water from where ever right beside some port that has dirty water and sewer issues..
maybe IF we wake the hell up Ron we can figure out how to spend the $ on education and some factories ,.. but I doubt if any money men will ever see it that way.. till it hurts them in the wallet or health of their families and then it will be way too late.

This year in the United States, shellfishery closings in six states -- four in the Northeast -- were attributed to Vibrio.

The researchers aren't sure why or how Vibrio has spread, but they suspect human interference. It's possible that ships' ballast water or long-distance shipping carried the bacteria to new regions, they suggested.

Moline said global warming may play a part in Vibrio's growth.

"Higher than normal seawater temperatures are associated with the increase in the prevalence of this bacterial strain and illnesses associated with it," Moline said.

As oceans continue to warm, more foodborne illnesses will likely appear, she said. "People need to be aware of how environmental changes may be affecting all of us, particularly in terms of food safety,"

My last meeting in DC had a presentation by a scientist from NEFMC about the changes up there due to Global Warming claiming the NE is ground Zero for this. Among the changes in the fisheries is the fact that this scientist now has baby barracuda under his dock in Maine on a regular basis!

testerman28

fact is that after everyone built port everglades up the 'last time' and took all our natural environment out and decided they could change it to something 'better' that makes 'more money' and replant stuff they broke their word and built more.. now they break their word once again and tell us that this has to happen for us to be competitive again at a cost to the people again.. when is it enough and when will the higher powers that vote and build this crap really show the public the real numbers and real costs? then show me again how this helps the people of south Florida let alone the remaining wildlife and environment we have left? at what cost? no different than Bimini no different than the white house and congress.. how many more acres? how many more oil storage tanks? how many more containers?