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The Destruction of Bimini!

Sad picture of the barge and crane staged at the proposed site of the RW Bimini cruise terminal over Three Sisters Reef.

Can we all say a prayer for a very stiff and early NW blow!:angel
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  • Bimini DreamBimini Dream Posts: 407 Deckhand

    Sad picture of the barge and crane staged at the proposed site of the RW Bimini cruise terminal over Three Sisters Reef.

    Can we all say a prayer for a very stiff and early NW blow!:angel
    Our family spent a lot of time at Three Sisters in July and August knowing that this outrageous project just might just push forward. Hard to believe their government even considered such a project let alone allow it's construction.
    A Part Of Paradise
    http://onetoughkitty.com
  • Flyers UpFlyers Up Posts: 655 Officer
    All in the name of money!!! Lets hope the Biminites can fight to stop this project.
  • VenturesomeVenturesome Posts: 1,743 Officer
    **** thats sad !!!!
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  • INTREPID377INTREPID377 Posts: 3,736 Captain
    There's no turning back now.

    On the bright side, I'd rather the ship dock at BB and keep the day tripping, casino crowd up at that end of the island than have constant ferry trips through the harbor.
  • BarracudaBarracuda Posts: 767 Officer
    This is just crazy...very sad about this...
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • alacrityalacrity Posts: 2,648 Captain
    what an abomination.
  • VenturesomeVenturesome Posts: 1,743 Officer
    There's no turning back now.

    On the bright side, I'd rather the ship dock at BB and keep the day tripping, casino crowd up at that end of the island than have constant ferry trips through the harbor.

    i agree, keep the idiots up that way as a silver lining.
    I feel bad for the locals like hank, barbara, tommy etc...........they so hate whats happening and its gonna cost them business.
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  • saltyseniorsaltysenior Posts: 868 Officer
    haven't been there for about 25 years, but looking at the landscape beyond the barge,I would say the destruction of Bimini began long before now...
  • haven't been there for about 25 years, but looking at the landscape beyond the barge,I would say the destruction of Bimini began long before now...

    You're right, that used to be the Pines!
  • BiminiwallBiminiwall Posts: 79 Deckhand
    i agree, keep the idiots up that way as a silver lining.
    I feel bad for the locals like hank, barbara, tommy etc...........they so hate whats happening and its gonna cost them business.

    Its not effecting them one bit. The Resort World crowed is aged 18-36.. They've never been to Bimini before this ship. They probably think the south end is a third world country.

    Sherry said herself. Since the start she's maybe had 10 people come from the ship.

    Which proved my point. Hank, Michael, Patrick, Sherry, Eric, Piccolo Pete, The lady's up at Anchorage, Captain Bobs, Ashley Saunders, CJ's Deli and the others who survived on fisherman these last 40 years will continue to live off the fisherman. THe only thing that might change is the occasional hummer might stop at bluewater to gas up.

    Seriously, I've been to Bimini 4 times since the cruise ship. I've not seen one person from the cruise ship drive past eddithes pizza.
  • Bimini DreamBimini Dream Posts: 407 Deckhand
    I understand that construction of the pier has already started with about 50 pilings in place.
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  • Blue ZoneBlue Zone Posts: 414 Officer
    I'm wondering if those guys have work permits???

    Didn't we hear the pier was to on pilings?
  • CAP2013CAP2013 Posts: 14 Greenhorn
    Blue Zone wrote: »
    I'm wondering if those guys have work permits???

    Didn't we hear the pier was to on pilings?

    Looks like they're moving ahead without permits

    http://www.thenassauguardian.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=42144&Itemid=2
  • biminibradbiminibrad Posts: 373 Deckhand
    No pilings.? That will be a giant sand catch. Sad part is, wilchcombe will be fine once a permit is issued. Looks like a pier started to me with out a permit
  • They are building a cell out of the sheet piling to contain the fill and create a 6 acre Island. The fill will be dredged from the tunring basin and used to bury Three Sisters reef and all of the coral.


    Now for comparison in the US. At Port of Miami, dredging will impact about 1 acre of live coral. Prior to dredging, a 7 acre artificial reef will be constructed and all impacted coral will be transplanted to the new reef.

    This exact approach could have been used at Bimini IF THEY RESPECTED THE ISLAND ENVIRONMENT! THIS IS JUST CAPO WITH AN ASIAN TWIST!

    My goal is to spearhead a grass roots effort in Miami to make sure Genting does not get any permits to impact the shoreline or bottom of Biscayne Bay. Genting want to ignore the environment in the Bahamas, but we son't let them do that at their 250 million dollar investment in Miami!

    Genting, we can and will stop your development in Miami after you have now showed your true colors.
  • Blue ZoneBlue Zone Posts: 414 Officer
    Ron in spite of our past issues, kudos my man! Great post.
  • SapingasKangasSapingasKangas Posts: 279 Officer
    They are building a cell out of the sheet piling to contain the fill and create a 6 acre Island. The fill will be dredged from the tunring basin and used to bury Three Sisters reef and all of the coral.


    Now for comparison in the US. At Port of Miami, dredging will impact about 1 acre of live coral. Prior to dredging, a 7 acre artificial reef will be constructed and all impacted coral will be transplanted to the new reef.

    This exact approach could have been used at Bimini IF THEY RESPECTED THE ISLAND ENVIRONMENT! THIS IS JUST CAPO WITH AN ASIAN TWIST!

    My goal is to spearhead a grass roots effort in Miami to make sure Genting does not get any permits to impact the shoreline or bottom of Biscayne Bay. Genting want to ignore the environment in the Bahamas, but we son't let them do that at their 250 million dollar investment in Miami!

    Genting, we can and will stop your development in Miami after you have now showed your true colors.

    Wake up and smell the money. Bimini has your garden variety corruption while ours here is on steroids. You have an adorable childlike innocence about your views of how the real world operates. It is and always will be about the allmighty buck. Sad but true.
  • Wake up and smell the money. Bimini has your garden variety corruption while ours here is on steroids. You have an adorable childlike innocence about your views of how the real world operates. It is and always will be about the allmighty buck. Sad but true.

    sap,

    I have been doing this for while, I know where the money is. I know the contractor, I know the project, heck, I even know where the dang sheet piling came from and it was my former project. Just because its about money, does not mean a company like Gneint could not spend a few more buck and save their reputation.

    One thing I do know: While we may have no influence in Bimini, we can and will have influence in Miami!
  • dpdashdpdash Posts: 5,359 Admiral
    Sap, my $ is on Ron on this one, its in his wheelhouse
  • SapingasKangasSapingasKangas Posts: 279 Officer
    dpdash wrote: »
    Sap, my $ is on Ron on this one, its in his wheelhouse

    When money wants something, it usually attains it. Where there's a will there's a way, where there's no will there's another way (quoting Billy Preston). I hope I'm wrong but then again I have history to back my pessimism.
  • testerman28testerman28 Posts: 1,329 Officer
    Sap , its not the $, it is a screwed up decision made by a man to do anything he wants with the $.. too bad the men in control of this don't have any common sense.. I hope you understand from a regular persons viewpoint that it does not make it right..

    you do also realize that 'not' taking a stand at 'whats right' also will destroy anything good inside of you.. anyone involved will have to go home and look in a mirror and at their own family.. my question is with all this is "How are you doing with it?" or are you the silly type that could shoot the last elephant or tiger just to harvest a tusk or bones?
  • BiminiwallBiminiwall Posts: 79 Deckhand
    When money wants something, it usually attains it. Where there's a will there's a way, where there's no will there's another way (quoting Billy Preston). I hope I'm wrong but then again I have history to back my pessimism.

    What is your argument here? So far it just seems like you have a bone to pick with Ron? I'm failing to see your side of this issue. Care to elaborate?
  • Stroker AceStroker Ace Posts: 335 Deckhand
    I don't think anyone will stop genting. They will eventually get their casino at the Herald building and dredge the bay in front for a Marina. What makes anyone think that those greasy slobs in Miami can't be bought? Anyone been to a Marlins game lately? An after they build their gambling palace in Miami bimini bay will be a whorehouse with a small casino. Bet on it.
  • SapingasKangasSapingasKangas Posts: 279 Officer
    Biminiwall wrote: »
    What is your argument here? So far it just seems like you have a bone to pick with Ron? I'm failing to see your side of this issue. Care to elaborate?

    Sure, that he's pissin in a windstorm and wants it to land right over there....
  • Lets look at how things are done over here for a minute.

    Port Everglades, multi million dollar economic engine for South Florida. In a big race to be one of the players for the new wider Panama Canal and they need the harbor deepening to do it. Every single politician at local, State and Federal level admit that they want the port expansion.

    But, Fish and Wildlife has an issue with the reef impact. Its small (I am talking about direct impact, not indirect meaning coral that will actually be removed as part of the Dredging.)

    However with this simple position by F&W, that dredging environmental impact statement cant get thru the process to even make it into the Water Resource bill to get funded. As for now, no dredging at Port Everglades.

    The coral can be relocated just like being done in Miami, but the project can't get approval at this time.

    Now lets go to Biscayne Bay and Genting property there. Seagrasses are one of the most difficult mitigation. Where are you going to mitigate dredging of seagrasses in the Bay for a private entity? Trust me, government is much smarter these days, we used to be able to get parks like John U Loydd to give us areas to do private mitigation projects, We also used to be able to do that in the bay. Now with limited mitigation areas, government is saving areas suitable for mitigation for their uses, and rarely let private mitigation take place on State land.

    Mangrove mitigation is easy, Coral is harder but still relatively easy, but seagrass? not so easy , and not so successful.

    In fact, the most suitable mitigation site in Biscayne bay for seagrass mitigation or transplant, is Julia Tuttle Causeway borrow hole to the North of the causeway. Sorry Genting, this is being used exclusively by Port of Miami to mitigate seagrass impact for that port dredging.

    Genting can but the Miami Dade commission and mayor, but they will never get approval to use these lands for mitigation.

    We cant' stop Genting in Bimini, but we can definitely stop them in Miami!

    BTW, just the mitigation at Port of Miami has a $25 to $45 million price tag.

    I admit that we are sticking our nose in the Bahamians business on the Bimini thing, but we can get Genting where it hurts when they try this in the US.

    Sap, go away, but don't go away mad, you are totally out of your league on this issue. I have been doing projects just like this for well over 37 years.
  • http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1774&dat=19990906&id=IAodAAAAIBAJ&sjid=G34EAAAAIBAJ&pg=6307,457058

    One of my reef restoration projects

    Watch the video, It was my company that performed the work in both projects, and I was the first person to ever be issues a marine construction permit within the Florida Keys national marine sanctuary. By permit I was personally responsible for any damage that could have occurred during construction and could have face both civil and criminal penalties if myself of one on my employees had mad any critical mistakes.
  • 2amigo2amigo Posts: 9,116 Admiral
    Don't give Sap the energy Ron. Talking to him is like pissing in the wind. If an invasion happened in this country , his attitude would be,
    " We can't try to fight it, they can do what they want "
  • SapingasKangasSapingasKangas Posts: 279 Officer
    2amigo wrote: »
    Don't give Sap the energy Ron. Talking to him is like pissing in the wind. If an invasion happened in this country , his attitude would be,
    " We can't try to fight it, they can do what they want "

    Listen small child, my cynicism keeps me well grounded. Remember, the Devil knows more from experience than from being the Devil. And the invasion has already occured and it's in the form of big business, little man.
  • testerman28testerman28 Posts: 1,329 Officer
    Ron I will say though that the canal shipping thing has it's problems by far. number 1 they say that there will not be enough water to lower and raise the boats as needed with the need for fresh water. two our area like Bimini does not need more stuff than it can handle. maybe it is just me living in paradise and watching it go to hell but screw this port digging it is for the birds. nobody but the dredgers Ft lauderdale investors and the shipping company make any money with the impact on the environment and people at an all time high. more planes more containers and all we do is buy other people stuff. the people of south florida think putting 10 lbs of crap in a 4 lb bag all for someone else to make money off of sucks. by the way the $ and dirt already should have been used to fix the lake. this expansion you stat is so good blows and the tide surge from hurricanes will flood ft lauderdale being it will be a Trough so to speak.. worst idea ever .. along with the new casino bahamas boats we are getting and the extra cruise ships show me where any money goes and then tell me again how you mitigate coral you take naturally and the environment you take or destroy for profit. ???.. same as the bahamas! you had better also start thinking about the fresh water tables and the cost .. same as the bahamas we don't even think of ourselves as a destination anymore just a freakin' depot..
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