LastMango wrote: »
I ponder if we shouldn't start a sticky for this subject...http://wptv.m0bl.net/w/main/story/96849068/
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monkeybusinessjr wrote: »
They just want to flood the lake. They don't actually have any solutions or even an interest in understanding the issues. Sadly that's the general public for you.
snook87 wrote: »
Last check on the whitehouse.gov petition, around 3300 out of 100000 needed before August 18, 2013. I see dont see the participation we really need on that petition.
Plane Fish n wrote: »
Would you mind explaining your point please?
saltysenior wrote: »
i believe he is saying there is nowhere else to place or send the water....which is unfortunately the truth right now....and the Kissimmee River is now overflowing it's banks where it has been restored so there is much more coming...
snook87 wrote: »
If the farmers and sugar cane growers accept the dirty lake o water, they would be doing 3 good things...water will flow south, they can use the nutrient rich water as a free benefit for crop nutrition, and at the same token it will filter the water much more. Its like hitting the trifecta all for FREE!
captinmitch wrote: »
It sounds like a great plan but until we 'own' more federal politicians than Big Ag and Sugar, ain't gonna happen.
captinmitch wrote: »
It sounds like a great plan but until WE 'OWN' more federal politicians than Big Ag and Sugar, ain't gonna happen.
Plane Fish n wrote: »
Monkeybusinessjr, SaltySenior and Cuckoo ,
Thanks for the explanation.
I think herein lies the problem.
Let's take Monkeybusinessjr's short statement and break it down:
1. "They just want to flood the lake."
Nobody just wants to flood the lake. The lake flooding is being caused by the current plan which is clearly not working. What reasonable people are asking for is some sort of action/plan/idea or commitment for future Lake O water management. Right now, Lake O discharges are caused by MIS management. As a native floridian, I remember constant water rationing because the Lake was way too low. Months later, the Lake is way too high so purging is necessary. The "lets sit back and let it happens because there is nothing we can do" attitude is no different than a woman who is overpowered and **** by a group of men. Since there is nothing that she can do, just sit back and let it happen? This seems to be what you are suggesting.
2. They don't actually have any solutions or even an interest in understanding the issues.
I believe that the opposite is actually the case. I don't think that YOU or the parties to be, have an interest in understanding the issues or that you/they want to offer any solutions because as Mitch said, sadly, there is nothing in it for the politicians to take on Big Ag and Big Sugar. They both bring in revenue to the state and therefore, why bite the hand that feeds you? There was a plan several years back that was going to store the Lake O overage underground and then tapped when needed during the drought months. This never came to fruition... perhaps because it was too costly or perhaps there was no interest in furthering the study. I'm certainly not saying that this is the best idea or even that it is a good idea HOWEVER it was a solution that was proposed. There have been many other "solutions" and ideas proposed over the years so perhaps the WRONG people aren't interested in a solution or just aren't understanding the issues as you have stated.
3. Sadly that's the general public for you.
This sir, is an extremely arrogant statement to make. Do you work for Big Ag or Big Sugar? Are you one of the PAC recipients for Big Ag or Big Sugar? It sure sounds so. Please don't assume that "the general public" is as naive/uneducated/uncaring/ignorant of the facts or just plain stupid as you elude to with your statement. The general public is in fact tired. They are tired of fish kills, algae blooms, sick mammals (including humans) and most importantly, tired of the attitude that "we are smarter than you are." Several of the forum members are actually involved in water management, fisheries, marine biology, agriculture and commercial fishing. These members make up part of "the general public" that you seem to mock. Further, forum members comprise of fishermen, divers, boaters, kayakers, environmentalists and even publishers of this very forum that gives you the outlet to belittle the other members which you so eloquently do with your statements. These members of the general public are extremely educated. They have been educated at the University of HARD KNOCKS! I would dare say that these members of the general public are as caring and educated as you!
You see sir, your words have consequences. If you aren't going to be part of the solution, then don't mock those who want to be.
I hope you will be at the rally in downtown Stuart but I'm sure you won't because after all, who would want to be associated with "the general public?"
Lobstercatcher229 wrote: »
I guess no one wants the C aloosahatchee to take it to the gulf
We have low water levels in lake Jakson in Highlands county. Too bad we can't get some of that water.
cuckoo wrote: »
Your probably correct they don't want it heading that way but crossing the river every day it's flowing fast... Not gonna try and find the figures for you because your comment on Jacksons level has to be absurd. Fisheating Creek is flooding out the campground, Kissimmee River is flowing like a beach, my yard is flooded in Chobee and raining every were but Sebring?
Agree with monkeybusinessjr on paragraph #4 X5....
Dream Reality wrote: »
I'm not a good people estimater but there were alot. Waiting for the news tonight.