NEW for 2014! PENN's Conflict Spinning Reel

PENNPENN Posts: 373 Deckhand
New in our 2014 line-up - PENN's CONFLICT SPINNING REEL
Lightweight, Smooth, Sleek, and Powerful.

Designed for the technical inshore angler who is looking for top-line performance, PENN's new Conflict Spinning Reel delivers a light weight and smooth casting reel capable of big drag pressure. With a stealthy, low key cosmetic of black on black and smoky gray markings, Conflict may look quiet, but one cast and you'll see it screams PENN craftsmanship and engineering. Available in 8 sizes, September, 2013. Priced from $129 to $159.
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  • jcanracerjcanracer Posts: 4,333 Moderator
    very nice!
    Hobie Kayak angler for life!
  • GermGerm Posts: 1,704 Captain
    That an EVA foam knob?
  • nicknick Crystal RiverPosts: 4,787 Captain
  • PENNPENN Posts: 373 Deckhand
    Here is a link to the product video. http://bit.ly/PENNConflictReel
    It is an EVA knob.
    In comparison to the Battle, weight, max drag, sealed bearings and bearing count, spool lip design for cast ability, and EVA handle knob are some of the bigger differences.
  • jcanracerjcanracer Posts: 4,333 Moderator
    Seems to be the next evolution of the Battle reel. I think that is going to be a straight-up replacement for my BTL5000.

    However, Penn is pitching it to the "technical inshore angler" so that makes me wary of its ability to withstand offshore conditions, similar to what we have seen with the Battle (examples: my bearing going bad on the btl5000, the other member's btl4000 handle locking up).
    Have I been misusing my Battle by taking it offshore in my kayak as my jigging reel? Would I be misusing the Conflict if I treated it the same way? Genuinely want to know since I still plan to buy one as soon as it comes on the market.
    Hobie Kayak angler for life!
  • Master BlasterMaster Blaster Posts: 381 Deckhand
    I was already planning on going back to Penn. I think they just sealed the deal!! Great looking real.
  • Jetex2801Jetex2801 Posts: 540 Officer
    Did you guys change the painting process/type for the conflict?
  • PENNPENN Posts: 373 Deckhand
    Jcanracer - you're not abusing your Battle by jigging from a kayak, but just know that bearings eventually go bad when exposed to saltwater. Kayak guys have been gravitating to the Spinfisher V since it's water tight....but I suspect some of them will also use the Conflict because it uses all sealed ball bearings (Battle uses shieded bearings).

    Jetex - yes and no...we made a change to the painting process on Fierce, Sargus, Battle about 18 months ago. The Conflict will use this new process as well. There are still some reels in the market that have the paint flaking issue, if you were unfortunate enough to recieve one of those we'll be happy to swap you out.

    Mike
  • jcanracerjcanracer Posts: 4,333 Moderator
    Ahh, thanks for the insight Mike! Now I am extra keen to swap up to the Conflict if the bearings are higher quality (sealed). And yes, a SpinfisherV is in my near future as well.
    Hobie Kayak angler for life!
  • paddlejaxpaddlejax Posts: 229 Officer
    Sounds like the perfect upgrade from the battle 1000 for kayak fishing. Any chance it's Philly made?
  • robsmack70robsmack70 Posts: 62 Deckhand
    Only reels with MSRP of $200.00 or over are made in USA I believe. Penn will correct me if I am wrong.
  • Pescatoral PursuitPescatoral Pursuit Posts: 5,065 Admiral
    Have you changed the oscillation speed/ line lay pattern from the Battle?

    And two thumbs down with the eva grip.
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  • aboveboredabovebored Posts: 1,273 Officer
    Whats up with the line capacity looks like they got it backwards.
  • Jetex2801Jetex2801 Posts: 540 Officer
    Have you changed the oscillation speed/ line lay pattern from the Battle?

    And two thumbs down with the eva grip.

    They claimed to have adjusted the oscillation and changed spool height
  • FloridanglerFloridangler Posts: 4 Greenhorn
    jcanracer wrote: »
    Seems to be the next evolution of the Battle reel. I think that is going to be a straight-up replacement for my BTL5000.

    However, Penn is pitching it to the "technical inshore angler" so that makes me wary of its ability to withstand offshore conditions, similar to what we have seen with the Battle (examples: my bearing going bad on the btl5000, the other member's btl4000 handle locking up).
    Have I been misusing my Battle by taking it offshore in my kayak as my jigging reel? Would I be misusing the Conflict if I treated it the same way? Genuinely want to know since I still plan to buy one as soon as it comes on the market.

    I see your problem with the battle. You shouldn't be using the 5000 for jigging. The reel doesn't hold enough line and is not tough enough. I vertical jig with the 7000 and have no problems whatsoever. You should upgrade or you will have the same problems. This will hold true to the smaller conflict's as well. I love my battles but want a reel to switch out with them.
  • FloridanglerFloridangler Posts: 4 Greenhorn
    Also I want to know whether I should wait for the conflicts to come out or just get a spinfisher v for vertical jigging?
  • PENNPENN Posts: 373 Deckhand
    The Conflict is made overseas.

    Line capacity is basically the same as the Battle (just curious....how do you get capacity backwards.....or are you saying we went backwards/made a mistake?). We added a 2500 size in between the 2000 and 3000, and bumped the 3000 up by about 10%. We dropped the 7000 size and bumped the 6000 by about 5%.

    Spool height and dimensions have changed (oscillation system is basically the same), which has indeed improved the line lay. We have also increased the diameter of the spool lip which helps keep anglers from overfilling their spools which promotes wind knots.

    We are pitching the 1000-4000 reels to the technical inshore angler....weight savings is the story on these sizes (they have a graphite reinforced rotor, drilled out handle arm and spool). The 5000-8000 sizes have a full metal body (rotor, side plate, body/frame) and will hold up as well as the current Battle reels.

    Any other questions let me know.

    Mike
  • fishboyfishboy Posts: 1,326 Officer
    PENN wrote: »
    Jcanracer - you're not abusing your Battle by jigging from a kayak, but just know that bearings eventually go bad when exposed to saltwater. Kayak guys have been gravitating to the Spinfisher V since it's water tight....but I suspect some of them will also use the Conflict because it uses all sealed ball bearings (Battle uses shieded bearings).

    Jetex - yes and no...we made a change to the painting process on Fierce, Sargus, Battle about 18 months ago. The Conflict will use this new process as well. There are still some reels in the market that have the paint flaking issue, if you were unfortunate enough to recieve one of those we'll be happy to swap you out.

    Mike

    I have a Penn Battle 5000 that has a paint flaking issue. how would i go about getting this reel swapped? should i send you guys a pic like last time, or just send the reel into you guys? I also wanted to thank you for your great service when I had the problem with my battle 4000 handle. Penn rules!
  • PENNPENN Posts: 373 Deckhand
    Fishboy - please send the reel to:

    PENN
    Attn: Tony Dubeck
    3028 W. Hunting Park Ave
    Philadelphia, PA 19132

    We will take care of it under warranty.

    Thanks,
  • FloridanglerFloridangler Posts: 4 Greenhorn
    Hey I fish in south Florida offshore and in freshwater for peacock bass. Would the conflict 3000 hold up fine to hefty peacocks. Also I was thinking of taking a trip to the amazon for larger peacocks. Would the 5000 or 6000 do fine? Thanks
  • PENNPENN Posts: 373 Deckhand
    FL angler - 3000 should be fine on the FL peacocks, probably could step down to a 2500 and save a little weight depending on how "finesse" you like to get. I'm not sure what kind of tackle they are using on the Peacocks in the amazon....maybe someone else could weigh in on that question.

    Thanks,
  • JC_UF_ITKJC_UF_ITK Posts: 489 Deckhand
    Dang, I just bought 8 Battles within the last year. Might need to start switching them out over the next year or two. Good looking reel!
  • jcanracerjcanracer Posts: 4,333 Moderator
    I see your problem with the battle. You shouldn't be using the 5000 for jigging. The reel doesn't hold enough line and is not tough enough. I vertical jig with the 7000 and have no problems whatsoever. You should upgrade or you will have the same problems. This will hold true to the smaller conflict's as well. I love my battles but want a reel to switch out with them.

    I respectfully disagree that a 5000 is too small for vertical jigging. My application is kayak fishing on the Atlantic side, so i'm only targeting 200-300' depth. I will agree with you that it wasn't "tough enough" though. The Conflict will get some of my money next year, but in the meanwhile I purchased a SpinfisherV 6500 to be my workhorse spinning reel and have been very happy.
    Hobie Kayak angler for life!
  • snook87snook87 Posts: 1,707 Captain
    I wonder if the paint will corrode on these too?
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  • IndianLagoonIndianLagoon Posts: 1,851 Captain
    snook87 wrote: »
    I wonder if the paint will corrode on these too?

    They changed the paint process.
  • FLATS BROKEFLATS BROKE Posts: 2,060 Captain
    Are these available for sale yet?
  • PENNPENN Posts: 373 Deckhand
    Flats - they started shipping from our warehouse last week, you will see them in stores starting this month.

    Mike
  • jcanracerjcanracer Posts: 4,333 Moderator
    I saw the Conflict 6000 in Bass Pro over the thanksgiving weekend, the frame is nice and sturdy and I like the feel of the handle and material.
    The design has many elements of the Battle, so much so that I consider this the Battle version 2.0, and that is a good thing. As soon as I repair and sell my btl5000 I will replace with a Conflict.

    PENN, is this going to replace the Battle or will they continue to be sold side by side?
    Hobie Kayak angler for life!
  • PENNPENN Posts: 373 Deckhand
    Jcanracer

    The Conflict will not replace the Battle.
  • Capt. Skip DanaCapt. Skip Dana Posts: 253 Officer
    I just received one of our 8 conflicts to come, so far so good. Love the feel of it, will put it to use Saturday and will post a report.
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