innocent young children blamed for man's death while just playing a nice game

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[h=1]Syracuse police charge 13-year-old, 15-year-old in market killing[/h] Print
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on May 30, 2013 at 7:48 PM, updated May 30, 2013 at 11:49 PM



















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12846793-large.jpgPolice Chief Frank L. Fowler and Mayor Stephanie A. Miner address the media on Thursday following the beating death of Michael Daniels. Teens were playing the "knock out game" where they select a random person and try to knock them out, this time taking Mr. Daniels life. Scott Schild | [email protected]

Syracuse, NY -- Authorities have charged two teenagers in the May 23 attack and subsequent death of a 51-year-old Syracuse man outside a South Side market.
A 13-year-old and a 15-year-old have each been charged with first-degree manslaughter in the killing of Michael Daniels, Syracuse Police Chief Frank Fowler and Mayor Stephanie Miner said at a news conference Thursday night.
Daniels was standing alone outside Los Amigos Market at the corner of Cannon Street and West Brighton Avenue around 9:40 p.m. on May 23 when when he was attacked by a group of teenagers. Police said the teens repeatedly punched Daniels and then kicked him in the head while he was on the ground.
He died a day later at Upstate University Hospital.
Fowler said the two teens were taking part in "Knockout," a game in which people randomly target someone on the street and try to knock the person out by punching them.
"A man lost his life because a group of young people decided to play this very dangerous game," Fowler said.
The 13-year-old was charged Wednesday and was being held at Hillbrook Juvenile Detention Center. The 15-year-old was charged Thursday and will be arraigned in Syracuse City Criminal Court Friday morning.
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Fowler refused to release the names of the teens charged. He said it's the Syracuse Police Department's policy to not release the identities of juvenile suspects, even if they are arraigned as adults because there's a chance a judge could seal the case later on.
Police believe the 13-year-old approached Daniels and threw the first punch and that the 15-year-old joined in after.
Police were not able to question either teenager extensively because both had assigned legal counsel. Fowler said detectives were able to briefly talk with the 13-year-old while his mother was present, but that she later stopped the interview. He said detectives weren't able to talk to the 15-year-old at all.
The charges came about in large part because of a great deal of cooperation from witnesses and those in the community, Fowler said.
Police are now investigating at least four other instances of people being attacked in a similar manner, Fowler said. He declined to say whether the two teens charged in the May 23 incident were also suspected in other attacks.
An investigation is continuing.
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  • tankardtankard Posts: 6,750 Admiral
    Teenagers need to be subject to a$$whoopings.

    This is where the liberal coddling of children leads to.
  • Cane PoleCane Pole Stuart, FLAPosts: 9,743 Admiral
    That's not a game.

    Going to the big house now. We'll see how they like it when they're the target.
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  • SJCSJC Posts: 2,564 Captain
    I ain't getting my **** kick my a 13 yo or a 15 yo, even if they were together. UNless they are the size of Shaq
    The Beatings will continue until moral improves!
  • HiHHiH Posts: 407 Deckhand
    I know this happened in New York but IF the victim was carrying and shot both of them,
    How many would be screaming for his head on a platter?
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  • SJCSJC Posts: 2,564 Captain
    HiH wrote: »
    I know this happened in New York but IF the victim was carrying and shot both of them,
    How many would be screaming for his head on a platter?

    My babies never hurt nobody, he was a good kid....
    The Beatings will continue until moral improves!
  • coldaircoldair Posts: 11,498 Officer
    HiH wrote: »
    I know this happened in New York but IF the victim was carrying and shot both of them,
    How many would be screaming for his head on a platter?

    according to many on here based on the victims skin color this was not only permissible but a community service act
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  • HiHHiH Posts: 407 Deckhand
    SJC wrote: »
    My babies never hurt nobody, he was a good kid....
    Dey pickin' on mah Babies
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  • MRichardsonMRichardson Posts: 7,045 Admiral
    No one at any time described the kids as "innocent"
    No one said they were "good."

    I bet you guys gettins so worked up over the imaginary
    fight you are having with young teens in your heads would
    get your *** beat down in 2 minutes., is what I bet.
  • SAENoleSAENole Posts: 10,349 AG
    They'll be back on the streets in several years. Not to worry.
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  • Dixie_DudeDixie_Dude Posts: 704 Officer
    No one at any time described the kids as "innocent"
    No one said they were "good."

    I bet you guys gettins so worked up over the imaginary
    fight you are having with young teens in your heads would
    get your *** beat down in 2 minutes., is what I bet.

    We should ban imaginary fighting.
  • MRichardsonMRichardson Posts: 7,045 Admiral
    If we banned imaginary fights and
    slights and dangers this forum would
    cease.
  • Dixie_DudeDixie_Dude Posts: 704 Officer
    If we banned imaginary fights and
    slights and dangers this forum would
    cease.

    Crap. Carry on :)
  • HoovHoov Posts: 386 Officer
    They deserve it...
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  • mjnmjn Posts: 1,564 Captain
    Knock game is supposed to be one punch. They were playing the mob mentality game.

    If it was one punch and run and the guy died, 2nd degree manslaughter sounds about right. But continued punching and kicking sounds like 2nd degree murder to me. Maybe even 1st. I am not sure how the whole premeditated thing would apply.
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  • SouthFloridaAnglerSouthFloridaAngler Posts: 3,164 Captain
    HiH wrote: »
    I know this happened in New York but IF the victim was carrying and shot both of them,
    How many would be screaming for his head on a platter?

    None
  • mad dog bitemad dog bite Posts: 423 Officer
    Sounds like a hate crime to me...


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  • anejo22anejo22 Posts: 1,511 Officer
    why not a murder charge.guy died while kids were commiting a felony .you start kicking someones head its a felony.
  • If1shalldayIf1shallday Posts: 464 Officer
    I'm ashamed to be 14 right noe because of this...
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