On Middle-Class Jobs Obama Needs To Face 'Reality': Economists

[Finfinder]

Funny thing is, I seriously doubt he or anyone who wastes time on this forum is part of the super super rich. He can't realize it because he's not part of it. The real irony though is how much they adore the super rich and protect their interests over and above the interest of themselves. You see, most anyone on this forum is mere middle class too, whether republican or democrat, and the gap between all of us and the super rich is the same.

You approach this as a parasite. Your ideology is killing the host. You have no concept of how our country rewards people for taking personal financial risk and becoming successful.

[stsimons]

Democrat ideology is like a factory for making poor dependents. Stamp them into whatever minority mold they will fit, take away their desire to improve their situation and then tell them all of their problems are someone else's fault - but if they will only vote democrat it will all change. Democrats aren't going to help their dependent voters, they are going to punish everyone else until all are on the same level (except their corporate cronies that need to get really rich so they can pay for it all the redistribution). Its sickening.

[Conchy Cracker]

Most of the jobs that became part of the American economy in recent decades pay too little to support a middle-class family

Reading comprehension truly is a lost art.....

[seajay-1]

Did you just realize that you and your ilk are the problem?

It is your Boy in the Whitehouse.

[Buda]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2664882.html

But many economists say the White House's focus skips over a stark reality: Most of the jobs that became part of the American economy in recent decades pay too little to support a middle-class family.

Despite four years of Obama policies aimed at altering this fact, most of the jobs created on his watch can still best be described as low-wage.

“The reality is most of our job growth isn’t going to be in manufacturing, it’s going to be in the services industry," Chris Owens, the executive director of the National Employment Law Project told The Huffington Post. "We need to enable those people to get a foothold into middle class.”

A middle-class job is one that pays between $13.84 and $21.13 per hour -- or between $28,787 and $43,950 per year -- and enables a family to afford the trappings of a middle-class lifestyle like a house, car and college education for their kids, according to NELP. Since the beginning of the economic recovery, 60 percent of the jobs created have fallen short of that standard.

Where is all of the big money being made? Follow the money.

Stock market and public corporations that are protected by the government with big tax breaks, I.e. like Romney's 13.9% on millions when small businessmen are paying 39% and middle class paying about the same as Romneys.

Oil companies making record profits and getting breaks and then raise prices at pump the day there is some reason.

Middle class and wage earners get taken.

Stock market ships good jobs off shore for slave wages and free pollution of air we still breathe and climate we see changing before our eyes.

The only thing that can stop the rape of our middle class is a monopoly busting government, but instead we have the opposite. the government is the problem all right but not with too much regulation and taxes, but to much on the wrong parties and too little on the problem.

Tax rates for all need to be the same. Lower rates on wage earners and do away with capital gains and carried interest and tax it as ordinary income.

Heavily tax sending jobs offshore. Incentivize business to expand investment to become stronger. With large investment tax credits. Start our own national oil company and require all energy from our lands and waters stay for our use.

Bud A

[Brewhedd]

In the 50's dad drove the beat up car to work so mom wouldn't run the risk of breaking down as she ran the errands. She had a decent car. Today both persons want a car they can barely afford and want to trade it in every couple of years. The average house has nearly doubled in size since then. We are paying for more house and borrowing money to have it. We have to have a flat screen in every room, everyone has to have the latest Iphone. Shall I keep going? People today don't save they want to spend.

People don't save? People want big houses, new cars and all the latest techonolgy? LMAO If someone is making $20 an hour in todays reality they can hardly afford a big house, new cars or a flat screen in every room. Been to a grocery store or gas pump lately?

[phlatsphil]

You approach this as a parasite. Your ideology is killing the host. You have no concept of how our country rewards people for taking personal financial risk and becoming successful.

Really? You know nothing about me. You know nothing about the retail business my wife and I started 2 years ago, the amount of investment we've made, or the expansion we're doing next month into the space next door when that tenant moves to a larger space......they need more space so we're knocking down the wall and adding their 1000sf to our space.....because our business is doing very well, thank you very much.

My previous comments stand. The difference between you and me is, you apparently idolize and protect the interest of king(s) while I don't. You believe the GOP party line that rich people create jobs and therefore should be protected at all costs. I believe the middle class spends money that creates demands for more products which in turn creates jobs.

[Finfinder]

Really? You know nothing about me. .

maybe you should read your own writing before you hit the keyboard angry man

also you should take this as a compliment then I hope you pay a sheet load of taxes BTW what hourly wage do you pay your employees

[phlatsphil]

maybe you should read your own writing before you hit the keyboard angry man

also you should take this as a compliment then I hope you pay a sheet load of taxes BTW what hourly wage do you pay your employees

I hope we have to pay taxes too. If we have to pay taxes the 2nd year of being in business, who in their right mind would complain? That's a good thing right?

$10.50/hour
Christmas bonus
Bonuses after special events

[Bimini Twisted]