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    Rude Sheeps and Rude Crewman

    We fished the near shore artificial reefs off Sarasota today looking for sheepshead. Anchoring over structure in about 30 feet, crewman Peter rapidly caught the first convict fish, a nice medium sized fish. A fairly steady bite of reef fish ensued including a variety of grunts and mangrove snapper. Some of the Key West grunts were large enough to fillet and ended up in the box. The mangos were smallish, but a couple were keeper size.

    The sheepshead bite was intermittent. We put half a dozen (or I should say Peter put half a dozen) sheepies into the box, all in the 16 inch to 17 inch range. I thought I had learned to deal with these bait stealers over the years, including actually trying to anticipate the hit. I have caught my fair share, but not today. Man, did they wipe me out. Time after time, after a hit, I ended up with an empty hook. To save me from total embarrassment, one sheepie decided to let me have the pleasure of his company and into the cooler he went. I think it is pretty rude of these fish to have developed into such proficient and thieving bait gluttons. I think it should also be considered a bit uncouth for a crewmember, who has never caught a sheepshead before, to so thoroughly show me up.

    We fished 1/0 circle hooks using ½ ounce weights on fish finder rigs. Small shrimp and or sections of shrimp were used as bait – and I went through dozens of shrimp. We did end up with a nice variety of good tasting reef fish for the table.

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    Hey thanks for the near shore reef report.Saves time and fuel and can be a steady bite on great pan fish.
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    Looks like a great time.

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    Lol...funny report. Thought it was gonna be someone encroaching on your spot.

    When I fish sheepies, I always use a rod with braid on it. I have learned that once I feel the first slight tap (which is them crushing your bait) I ever so slightly lift the rod tip and if I feel tension I set the hook!
    Give it a try, I usually end up with a 50/50 ratio. Fiddler crabs are sheepy candy!

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    Thanks for the tip HogTide. I will be heading out a few more times for sheepshead before the bite is over - they are close to the top of my list for eating.

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    Nice report. I have better luck with J hooks and Jigheads with sheeps. Hogtide is spot on w how to feel when you should set the hook.

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    Up here around Jacksonville, we use the braid also....but we use very short leaders....I usually use only about an eight inch leader of 20# flouro.

    If that leader, that is in your picture, is what you typically use.....shorten it up drastically, and I guarantee you, you'll feel the bite much better. With that long of a leader....what you are feeling is them spitting out the shell.

    Not knocking you in any way...just giving a helpful hint!!....

    ...trust me I learned the hard way too...


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    Great report.

    I will ditto what Knot oD said: jigheads, 1/16 - 1/4 oz depending on conditions.

    I am a big fan of the Gamakatsu round heads. I know they are primarily used for bass fishing, and rust pretty fast when used out of the sweetwater, but they are sharp and strong, which I find are very necessary qualities when dealing with 'heads. I also use fairly light flurocarbon leaders (15-20 lbs test). These two changes in my tackle has tremendously increased my hookup rate. Example: when fishing alone in PI Sound this time of year, I can usually max out my 15 fish limit using less then 3 dozen shrimp.

    We used to have a sheepshead in a 100 gal saltwater aquarium. When he was smaller, when he ate a fiddler crab or shrimp, he would take it in his mouth for a split second, crushing the shells, spit out everything, then go back to eat the softer pieces. When he got larger, he would usually skip the spitting-out step.

    Having dove and snorkled to watch sheepshead around Cayo Costa, I noticed when the smaller fish were in very loose schools (maybe just a couple on a piling), they would eat like my fish in the aquarium ate. However, when in fairly tight schools, the smaller fish will take shrimp that I am feeding them, and quickly dart off, while the larger fish are far more deliberate in their take-and-turn. I can definitely relate that observation to the larger sheepshead I have caught, in that they don't so much "bump" the line, but there is suddenly slack in it when I was previously tight against the jighead.

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    Thanks for the tips guys. Phlypper - I used to keep saltwater aquariums with live rock and hours could go by just watching the behavior of fish. I never had a sheepshead though, and probably not a good idea with live rock and coral!

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