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    Romney and Obama

    What is the difference?

    Obama has governed more like recent "moderate" Republicans.

    Obama extended the Bush taxes and even lowered taxes below what Bush's were.
    Obama never closed Gitmo
    Obama escalated the War on Terror, using drones.
    Obama continued the war in Afghanistan, did the troop surge thing.
    Obama bailed out corporations like Bush did with the banks.
    Obama's ObamaCare was based on both RomneyCare and loosely based on what the 90's era Republicans put forth.
    Obama signed into law National Park Concealed Carry.
    Obama signed the Patriot Act improvements and extensions.

    Obama has actually beat the status quo Republican at their own game... what is Romney going to run on?
    "....once the glitches get worked out." ~gunby31

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    Obama continued the saber rattling against Iran.

    ... what is Romney going to run on?
    "....once the glitches get worked out." ~gunby31

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    Romney will run on the economy, the deficit and jobs creation.

    Obama has failed on all three.

    The other issues are simply distractions from the most important issue at hand: our long-term national economic health
    Obama. Like a President, only dumber


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    You lie, Obama is a communist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclist View Post
    You lie, Obama is a communist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    In reality, Obama has let you down more than the typical moderate Republican...

    ... what is Romney going to run on?
    "....once the glitches get worked out." ~gunby31

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    Quote Originally Posted by grady30wa View Post
    Romney will run on the economy, the deficit and jobs creation.

    Obama has failed on all three.

    The other issues are simply distractions from the most important issue at hand: our long-term national economic health
    Romney has put forth that he wants to spend more on Military probably driving the debt up even further.

    ... what is Romney going to run on?
    "....once the glitches get worked out." ~gunby31

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclist View Post
    You lie, Obama is a communist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Obama is a Marxist.

    His platform on issues is directly from the CPUSA's website:

    The Communist Party USA is the party of and for the U.S. working class, a class which is multiracial, multinational, and unites men and women, young and old, employed and unemployed, organized and unorganized, gay and straight, native-born and immigrant, urban and rural, and composed of workers who perform a large range of physical and mental labor—the vast majority of our society. We are the party of the African American, Mexican American, Puerto Rican, all other Latino American, Native American, Asian American, and all racially and nationally oppressed peoples, as well as women, youth, and all other working people.

    The living standards of workers and the natural environment on which life depends are under constant attack due to the drive for maximum profits inherent in capitalism. Our party fights for jobs and economic security, a decent and rising standard of living, peace, justice, equality, a sustainable environment, gay rights, health care, education, affordable housing, the needs of seniors, democracy, and a fulfilling life for everyone, with socialism as our goal. Only through the abolition of the capitalist system and the socialist reorganization of society can exploitation of human beings by others, and the evils of oppression, war, racism, environmental degradation, and poverty be ended. We seek to build a socialist society which puts people and nature before profits.

    Our country’s founding Revolution exalted the ideals of equality, justice, and democracy, of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for all. Marxists have long hailed its progressive significance, while recognizing its historical limitations, chief of which was the failure to abolish slavery. The Communist Party today upholds the continuing struggle to realize these ideals. The revolutionary democratic traditions of the United States call for radical change when injustice, inequality, and exploitation become unbearably oppressive. This legacy gives us, the working class and its allies, the right and responsibility to build a new society. We advocate an expanded Bill of Rights to guarantee religious, political, and individual freedoms, but also freedom from poverty, hunger, joblessness, and racism.

    Racism plays a particularly destructive role in the life of our country, imposing severely impoverished living standards on tens of millions of the specially oppressed, and lowering the quality of life for all workers. Racism harms all workers, obstructing the development of working-class consciousness, driving wedges in class unity to divert attention from class exploitation, and creating extra profits for the capitalist class. The Communist Party is unalterably opposed to all manifestations of racism, national oppression, U.S. national chauvinism, male supremacy, homophobia, and anti-Semitism, which are used by the enemies of progress to divide the working class and people’s forces. The principles of democracy, equality, justice, and class self-interest require a joint fight against all expressions of racism and gender oppression. We fight for full equality for all who suffer from racial, national, and gender oppression as an essential aspect of the unity that is basic to all social progress.

    Issues of war and peace, wealth and poverty, ecology and pollution, racial and national division, gender discrimination, and international conflict are all connected to class struggle, and have common features on which to build unity among peoples, organizations, and coalitions. The working class as the necessary leading force along with the other core forces—all racially and nationally oppressed groups, women, and youth—can build a movement that also includes the many streams of our working people—such as family farmers, small business owners, and the self-employed—who united together have the power to make fundamental progressive change.

    Peace is essential for the survival of the planet and humanity. The pursuit of world domination to further enrich capitalists has resulted in destructive wars, environmental devastation, and massive poverty. The Communist Party fights for solidarity among the working class and peoples of all lands and supports their pursuit of self-determination over their own lands and economies. In the spirit of working-class internationalism, the Communist Party builds the closest bonds with Communist and Workers Parties throughout the world.

    Founded in Chicago in 1919, the Communist Party of the United States has an outstanding history in the struggles for peace, democratic rights, racial and gender equality, economic justice, union organization, and international solidarity. Our Party is organized on the principle of democratic centralism, combining maximum democratic discussion and decision-making with maximum unity of will and action, ensuring our ability to play a strong organizing role in the class struggle. We focus our efforts on increasing our ability to organize millions into struggle, fighting anti-communism as a divisive weapon of the capitalist class. With Marxism-Leninism guiding our actions, the Communist Party strives to build the broadest unity against global capitalist imperialism now headed by U.S. imperialism, for immediate gains and reforms that benefit working people, and for a progressive democratization of the government, the economy, and society of our country on the road to and after winning socialism.

    With pride in our past and confidence in our future, we hereby establish this Constitution of the Communist Party of the United States America.





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    Obama. Like a President, only dumber


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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Battery View Post
    Romney has put forth that he wants to spend more on Military probably driving the debt up even further.

    ... what is Romney going to run on?

    Romney will cut non-military discretionary spending, reign in entitlement spending, grow the economy, and shrink the deficit.

    Obama has done none of the above.
    Obama. Like a President, only dumber


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    That is simply rhetoric from a man that has raised taxes and signed more anti-gun legislation than Obama ever has.

    Legislatively speaking, Obama has governed like "modern" moderate Republicans

    ... what is Romney going to run on?
    "....once the glitches get worked out." ~gunby31

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Battery View Post
    That is simply rhetoric from a man that has raised taxes and signed more anti-gun legislation than Obama ever has.



    Romney will run on the economy, the deficit and jobs creation.
    Obama. Like a President, only dumber


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