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    Quote Originally Posted by arbitrageur View Post
    OK, my bad in saying WIC. I believe it was an EBT card, and it was definitely Publix and definitely a customized cake.

    The allowable items here are problematic for me. Ice cream???

    http://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/retailers/eligible.htm
    Why can't I have voice in Mr. Romney's $4,000,000 tax credit? He wants to add 5,000 sq ft to his CA beachfront home and I have a problem with that.

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    Grady-Lady

    I agree with the idea and need for food stamps and to the need to make sure they are spent on nourishing items.

    On another note, Grady Lady, you are one of the few people who often take opposite stances from those in my heart, that will take the time to explain your position and then back it up with logical civil, I might say even friendly, argument. After my quite extensive time on this planet, I am becoming disturbed by the angry, false, mischaracterizations that people use to attack a position they do not follow. I think this is a world wide problem as we observe the problems erupting in the mid east and our current political climate.

    I fault the Muslims not for worshipping a different God from me, but because there are no voices from an overwhelming majority of them decrying the extremists and their intolerance. In that same vain, I fault the Democrats and Republicans, and any other American political ideology that stand by without castigating those voices that are out of line. This latest Limbaugh outburst and the public outcry is an example that things are not yet out of control.

    Thanks for the opinions and logical explanations. Keep them coming.

    Sincerely, Bud

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    Quote Originally Posted by arbitrageur View Post
    Didn't have time to read through your link but I have seen it with my own two eyes. Either they are allowed or Publix is allowing some funny business!


    your right,my SIL does it every birthday.she is a perfect example why the EBT program needs some changes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister-Jr View Post
    Why can't I have voice in Mr. Romney's $4,000,000 tax credit? He wants to add 5,000 sq ft to his CA beachfront home and I have a problem with that.
    Mister, I have a real problem that Romney of any other person is able to make much much more income than most people do and still pay at a much much lower rate. This is an unfair, unreasonable, slanting of our tax code and laws in favor of the uber-rich. Prop on top of that the idea that Romney wants to lower is tax rate even further. I cannot have any respect for a man with this type of attitude. Now Obama has a whole other set of problems. My main fault with him is that he continues to accept and participate in the current political financial system without vigorously attacking it.

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    Bud I agree with you 100%. Obama has not made any effort to distance himself from the industry that befits the most from distortion in the tax code.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buda View Post
    Mister, I have a real problem that Romney of any other person is able to make much much more income than most people do and still pay at a much much lower rate. This is an unfair, unreasonable, slanting of our tax code and laws in favor of the uber-rich. Prop on top of that the idea that Romney wants to lower is tax rate even further. I cannot have any respect for a man with this type of attitude. Now Obama has a whole other set of problems. My main fault with him is that he continues to accept and participate in the current political financial system without vigorously attacking it.

    BudA
    Well said.

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    The bills sponsor fails to realize food stamps are traded as cash on the street. They will still get the products limited by food stamps . . .

    Although it looks good on paper.

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    Haven't I read stories where Recipients simply use ATMs in Casino's and Dance Clubs?

    This horse is out the barn, through the fence, down the road, in a new county.





    How to Use Your Card at the Store

    Before you shop, check your last receipt to find out how much money is in your account, or call 1-888-328-2666 for your balance

    Look for the Quest® mark on the door or the window of the store.

    At check-out, your card is swiped

    Enter your secret PIN on the number pad, then press Enter.

    Tell the clerk how much money to enter or enter the amount yourself. Remember, you can only buy eligible food items with your food benefits.

    Always check your receipt to make sure that the amount on the EBT receipt is the same as the grocery receipt.



    To Get Cash at the Store

    Get your balance by looking at your receipt, or call 1-888-328-2666.

    Look for the Quest® mark.

    Your card is swiped.

    Enter your secret PIN on the number pad, then press Enter.

    Tell the clerk how much money to enter or enter the amount yourself.

    Check to make sure the amount on the receipt is the same as the amount of cash you received.



    How to Use Your EBT Card at a Cash Machine (ATM)

    Always follow directions on the ATM.

    Enter your secret PIN.

    Press Withdrawal.

    Press Checking.

    Enter the dollar amount you want.

    Take your cash from the machine.

    Wait for your card and receipt.

    Check the receipt to make sure it is the same as the amount you got.

    DO NOT count your money at the machine.



    http://www.ct.gov/dss/cwp/view.asp?a=2349&q=304628

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buda View Post
    Grady-Lady

    I agree with the idea and need for food stamps and to the need to make sure they are spent on nourishing items.
    Me too.
    And, Bud, you brightened my day. Thank you.
    You, also, logically and honestly explain your positions...that's about the best we can do, isn't it?
    When I do lose my temper, I always regret it.

    ps - my friends call me gl, I'd consider it an honor if you did too.


    Quote Originally Posted by rodz View Post
    The bills sponsor fails to realize food stamps are traded as cash on the street. They will still get the products limited by food stamps . . .

    Although it looks good on paper.
    I would imagine she does know that...and I also would imagine the USDA is aware of it, and that it is already not allowed...it is one of those regulations that are virtually unenforceable. This measure will at least take non-nutritional foods off the approved list, which will make a difference. It does not forbid anyone from purchasing non-nutritional foods with their own money (and yes, some of that money may come from food stamp fraud.)

    Let me try to make a long story short...Many years ago I had a good friend who was married to an abusive, angry and possessive man. He took out his anger on her two little boys (by another marriage)...the oldest one (about eight) had to wear long pants all summer because of the bruises on his legs. When I discovered this, I told her to either leave him and come live with us, or I was going to report him to the authorities...and she might be in trouble too. She agreed to leave and I picked her and the boys up and brought them to my house. At the time we were a single income family with three young children of our own. My grocery budget was already very tight. I took her to the food stamp office to apply for help, and she was turned down, because she was living with us and had no kitchen of her own to cook in.

    As far as I know that is still the case, yet the homeless shelters have many residents who still receive funds from the SNAP program, and they are used for barter and/or junk food because the shelters provide meals. When reported to SNAP offices, the response is 'not much we can do about it'.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ichthusphile View Post
    Haven't I read stories where Recipients simply use ATMs in Casino's and Dance Clubs?
    It's a little confusing to me, but it appears that the emergency cash assistance program can be combined with the EBT accounts. The cash draws are limited to the remaining balance of the cash assistance on the EBT card...I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grady-lady View Post



    It's a little confusing to me, but it appears that the emergency cash assistance program can be combined with the EBT accounts. The cash draws are limited to the remaining balance of the cash assistance on the EBT card...I think.
    Yep, clear as mud: The result is they can withdraw cash whenever and wherever they find a participating ATM machine.

    As for Publix, we are not expecting cashiers to police a billion dollar governmental program are we?

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