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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarponator View Post
    Setting aside the silly left-leaning generalization, I agree there is a difference between capitalism and corporatism. However, I'm curious as to what you think the difference between capitalism and corporatism is. Particularly as it relates to the topic at hand. Or, said a bit differently/directly, is a company whose operations and employees are subsidized by the government (i.e. favorable tax laws/rates and employees paid below the poverty line) being favored by corporatist or capitalist policies?


    Take care...Mike


    Mike,
    With regards to Walmart pay scale and the fact that many employees are receiving "benefits" from local/state/fed... ?
    That's a damn tough one. Obviously, we can assume that Walmart chooses to pay low wages due to the govt indirectly-subsidizing their payroll. If this is correct, then there is little we can do about it?
    Somehow fine Walmart to recoup taxpayers losses?
    "Force" Walmart to pay more?
    Unionize their workers?

    I am against govt intervention in any voluntary employment, etc..

    Overall I'd like to see a reversal in the federal govt role in our lives. I'd rather each local/state govt deal with their own issues. So...if the fed govt backed off their "subsidies" for walmarts workers, the local/state would be forced to make changes.

    I'm not sure how well this would play out. But, overall I think each local/state govt can better control their own issues than someone in DC.

    As for tax incentives: I'm ok with local/state govts using them to lure companies into their area. It's competition, and the local tax payers can voice their opinion about it.
    This happened when I lived in Melbourne; numerous large defense contractors/engineers were expanding into the area... Lots of high-paying jobs moved into the area.
    *obviously corruption can and does happen when any incentive occurs, and all of these deals should be closely inspected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarponator View Post
    Setting aside the silly left-leaning generalization, I agree there is a difference between capitalism and corporatism. However, I'm curious as to what you think the difference between capitalism and corporatism is. Particularly as it relates to the topic at hand. Or, said a bit differently/directly, is a company whose operations and employees are subsidized by the government (i.e. favorable tax laws/rates and employees paid below the poverty line) being favored by corporatist or capitalist policies?

    Preachy.

    I could not agree more. Well said.

    What's more is I think we can do even better, and should strive to do so. Because when it comes to our 200+ year experiment in capitalism, I think there's a lot of room for improvement yet in this graph:



    Take care...Mike
    Super preachy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heatwave View Post
    Where they able to get this to all the news wires before the days deadline ? Too bad it wasn't part of the PUMPED PR about increases to trigger news. Everyone who makes millions a day will back track with no problem if in a Public Relations disaster. It is only money they need to fix it, and they have plenty of that sitting in huge accounts.

    Bottom line is that the country business atmosphere has become so much ME ME ME... Mo Money mo money....
    I use to love going to company picnics back in the 60s and 70s. The owner, or BOSS would shake hands, play horseshoes, and be part of the Gang. Now that guy is isolated so that he doesn't have to look employees in the eye while he takes it ALL.

    Everybody that runs a business wants to make profit, that is the name of the game. When you start contributing the statement WELFARE, DRUGS, Taking advantage of benefits, etc. to ALL Employees, then things fall apart. The country could have kept doing what it was doing, running legit businesses while paying good wages, working with UNIONS, and keeping it fair for all. In place of that the GREED took over. Everytime there is a problem with 1 worker out of 10, the ownerships punishes ALL employees by taking away. That was just a good excuse, and put out on TV for all to see as to WHY they had to cut back on wages, cut benefits, and so on. Thus we have a huge gap...

    Anyone, can use just about any excuse to say why it is like this... Poor workmanship, not caring, DRUGS again, but really, that is just an excuse to NOT CARE. Spin it how you will, not going to change anytime soon.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tarponator View Post
    I think what you should really be asking "what can we do to make it even better".

    You know, try to address the "it's not perfect" part you agreed with.

    So, how do you think it can be improved?

    Just curious...Mike
    Morality preaching according to Tarp.

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