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    Keeping in mind your wife, father, and son (once he is old enough) it's important to keep your reels user friendly...get a couple Shimano TR2000LD that have plenty of drag for the big stuff, and a couple smaller Shimano TRN200G for everything else...your family will enjoy reeling 'em in without having to concentrate on thumbing the line, and bonus is that it won't cost you a bundle and these Shimano's will take a beating!
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    I use Penn Senator 114h 6/0 reels for everything you listed but used 40# and 50# line since I fish alone and can't always turn and chase as quickly as 20# teams that chase sailfish.

    Check Craigslist south Florida. There are some listed for $75 That will easily meet your needs and then pick up a few Penn Battle II 6000 for offshore spinning needs.
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    I will be going with the BG's for my spinning needs for whatever I need to buy new (2x 3000 and 1x 5000). The Stradic and the LT100 I already own.

    For Vert Jigging I will be using the LT100.

    Coastal-
    I do agree completely with your assessment that i want user-friendly reels for my son and father (78).

    Thinking maybe 2 TLD20's at 30# for trolling and Kite and then Maybe a beefier Conventional 2-speed that can handle multiple duty spooled up with 50-60# troll / bottom fish.

    So on a kite drift i can have the 50/60# on the bottom, 2 kite lines out, and the 5k BG flat line and a few rods available to pitch if needed and if I am feeling really up for it can jig water column too if i see something interesting on the Finder.

    If I am being "wise" on most of my setups going with the BG and TLD what would you recommend as a mid-tier all around rod that can really get after the grouper on wrecks- 2 Speed with some good beefy drag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daramos13 View Post
    So on a kite drift i can have the 50/60# on the bottom, 2 kite lines out, and the 5k BG flat line and a few rods available to pitch if needed and if I am feeling really up for it can jig water column too if i see something interesting on the Finder.
    Stop right there, cut down to 1 pitch/jig rod, on top of the 2 kites, 1 bottom & 1 flat, then get out there & fish a few times. Then decide what YOU want. Is your retrieve too slow? Is it too fast? Is your rod too heavy? Not enough back bone? Not long enough? Too long? Wrong color? Wrong tip type?

    Don't buy too much stuff that somebody else likes to fish with. Start with a basic selection & see how it fits into the style of fishing that you want to do. When you are on the boat & feel the need to reach for something that you don't have, then it's time to go rod shopping again. It's easy to spend money & get what you want once you know what that is. It's harder to unload rods that do not fit your needs well after you have purchased them.
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    Surprised no one has mentioned...baitrunner feature is super useful here for flatlining or sinking live baits. I have a Shimano baitrunner 6000 and 8000 and never needed anything bigger. Sails and dolphin need to eat, so I find you lose less fish on a baitrunner.... On regular spinners you have to set the drag real loose or really be on it to open the bail when you get bit, then drag it up quickly so the hook sets without getting spit. If you want an upgrade from a Shimano baitrunner the thunnus reels are buttery smooth.
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    Pat's right about baitrunners for flat live bait....lets them run with it & just start
    reeling to it engage the drag at your preset..

    Don't think you want TLD for kite...fish will be halfway to West End
    by the time you can take up the slack. Kiting with spinners can be a good solution.

    I'm not a braid fanatic but when the current is 3-5 here it can be the difference
    between getting close to structure or not...mono can require a lot of lead or downriggers



    Quote Originally Posted by MakoLogic View Post
    Surprised no one has mentioned...baitrunner feature is super useful here for flatlining or sinking live baits. I have a Shimano baitrunner 6000 and 8000 and never needed anything bigger. Sails and dolphin need to eat, so I find you lose less fish on a baitrunner.... On regular spinners you have to set the drag real loose or really be on it to open the bail when you get bit, then drag it up quickly so the hook sets without getting spit. If you want an upgrade from a Shimano baitrunner the thunnus reels are buttery smooth.

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    I would definitely get some TLD 20/25s. I was in a similar situation as you are a year ago. I have 4 TLD 25s and 1 TLD 20. I bought the TLD 20 because it was a great price. The 20 and 25 are pretty similar except for line capacity. I have them all with 30# mono and use them mostly for Mahi, Kings, etc. I also have a BG 4500 on a Shimano Tallus, a 6500 Baitrunner on a Star rod and a Cabela's 8000 bait runner all with 50# braid and have no complaints. For the in-shore stuff look at the BG reels ( I have a 2500) and the Battle II combos. The Battle II combos for the 2500 series are like $110; hard to beat the price.

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    No expert, but I can be frugal (not the same as cheap).
    If you want a do it all combo:
    4 TLD25s spooled with 40lb line. Will this be ideal in every situation, no. Will this work, yes.
    (15s have a lot of problems, 20 is just a lower line capacity 25)
    4 line trolling spread is all you need for a beginner. With 40lb and a loose drag you will catch almost everything South Fl has to offer.
    TLDs for kite fishing. You better crank fast. Super slow line retrieve in a game of quick action. It can be done, but not the best. 40lb isn't the best, but will work.
    I use speedmasters. They aren't the best but the 6:1 ratio isn't bad and they stay spooled with 20lb so, it works.
    I've used my TLD25s for bottom fishing. I've caught up to 20lb red grouper on them no problem. Upgrade the handles (as you should) and you are good to go. 40lb is fine as long as you aren't trying for bigger fish than your average grouper. I've also caught a 75lb AJ on that reel. Almost killed me, but it happened.
    So, thats 1 set of reels that could cover trolling/drifting, bottom, and kite.
    Throw in a 6000 or so size spinner for pitching baits to big fish free swimming, a 4000 size for smaller dolphin or tripletail, and there you go. You have your beginner set up.
    I didn't mention rods for a reason. I like Star Deluxe because you can't break the eyes and I take a lot of new people fishing. The 50lb size is great for bottom fish, while the next size down is perfect for kite/trolling. For my spinning rods I like St. Croix Tidemasters because they double as inshore rods too. Tons of sensitivity to feel the bite. Not as important when site casting or catching larger fish.
    I've bought 6 TLD 25s off of The Hull Truth fishing website. They have a great private sellers page. You can find some real deals on there.
    Everyones comments are equally valid. This is just what I'd do if I was on a budget and wanted to start out. From here you can add in different things as you decide how you really like to fish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farside88 View Post
    4 TLD25s spooled with 40lb line. Will this be ideal in every situation, no. Will this work, yes.
    (15s have a lot of problems, 20 is just a lower line capacity 25)
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    Fill me in please. I must have missed something. Aside from limited line capacity & slow retrieve, what are the problems with the TLD 15s? I have two & so far, I've had good luck with them. Even the one that I bought used & later sent for a swim is still working well.

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    There is a seller with 6 BFC's on rods in Hull truth ..awesome for sails

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