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    for hire fishing requirements?

    As I understand correctly that as long as your a "from shore fishing guide" and are being paid, there are no requirements by any agency for that? So this brings me to this next question... If I own a boat and want to go fishing somewhere and want to pay someone to show me where to go, how to do, and ect... and that person is NOT a captain or licensed guide, is that illegal? Reason Im asking is that the other day I saw a person who "hired" this person to show them where to go fishing at and this person is not a captain of any boat or a mate. If this is illegal, what is the state statute and what other law does this fall under (USCG?)? Does for-hire, fishing guide, consult, and charter all fall under the same category?

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    Correct. They are just a guide. Florida has no guide License for land or sea.
    If you hired out the boat to others then Capt License would be needed.

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    If you are on a boat and pay someone even to show you where and teach you how. It has to be a USCG licensed captain and he must process a Florida captain license to cover the number of people on the boat. Check myfwc.com and look in the license section it will show you the captain license and it must be held on fresh or saltwater. If you are fishing as a guide from land or a kayak you do not need the licenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Chance View Post
    If you are on a boat and pay someone even to show you where and teach you how. It has to be a USCG licensed captain and he must process a Florida captain license to cover the number of people on the boat. Check myfwc.com and look in the license section it will show you the captain license and it must be held on fresh or saltwater. If you are fishing as a guide from land or a kayak you do not need the licenses.
    So paying for someone to come on my boat to show me where to fishing and how, that person must have a captains license and or license from the FWC then.

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    Only if the vessel is for-hire requires the captain/guide to be licensed. On your boat that you're operating, no license requirement.

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    Last chance..dead wrong. Only if the vessel is... Hired Out or others are taken for pay. Owner can ask or pay anyone he likes to go fishing with him.

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    K I am wrong LOL you better call the Coast Guard and ask them. That would fall into the same class as the consulting trips paying someone to go fishing with you. This was changed last June when the Coast Guard and Gulf of Mexico Council made a new definition of what a boat for hire is. But go ahead chances are you will not get caught for it anyway.

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    abacofever

    Maybe this will educate a little when you said Florida does not have a guide license yes they do maybe you really need to study up on regulations.

    Charter, headboat and saltwater fishing guide operations must have an FWC charter captain or boat license to cover their passengers, who are not required to hold a recreational saltwater fishing license. Customers authorized to fish under the vessel license are not required to hold a recreational saltwater fishing license.
    Dive charters: Scuba divers engaged in fishing or lobstering must have an individual saltwater fishing license and all necessary permits if the vessel they are on does not have the necessary vessel license.
    Charter Captain License (allows a licensed captain to go from boat to boat)
    In order to purchase an FWC Charter Captain license, you must have a Coast Guard Captain's license. Call 1-888-427-5662 for information on the Coast Guard Captain's license. USCG charter boat captain information External Website is available on the USCG web site.
    The FWC Charter Captain and Charter Boat licenses and commercial registration can be purchased at your local tax collector's office External Website only. For information about vessel registration visit the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Titles and Registrations.External Website
    What FWC charter licenses authorize
    The vessel license holder to carry up to the number of fishing passengers specified on the license.
    The number of customers specified on the FWC vessel license to take, attempt to take, or possess a limit of saltwater fish or organisms for non-commercial purposes without purchasing a recreational saltwater fishing license.
    A person who holds the “Charter Captain” License does not need to purchase his own recreational saltwater fishing license to recreationally fish from a vessel. He may use his “Charter Captain” because it’s tied to him, this does not apply to a Charter Boat/Vessel License.
    What the FWC charter licenses DO NOT authorize Harvest in commercial quantities or the sale of fish.
    Passengers (whether licensed, not licensed, or exempt from licensure) in excess of the number specified on the FWC vessel license to take, attempt to take, or possess a limit of saltwater fish or organisms (even if licensed by the USCG to carry more paying passengers).
    The captain and crew to take, attempt to take, or possess a limit of fish or organisms under the vessel license.
    A charter vessel captain who possesses a six-pack license under USCG and an FWC charter vessel license for up to 4 people may carry up to two extra passengers ONLY when they are NON-FISHERS.
    Additional restrictions on charter boat captain and crew and for-hire guides on a keeping their limit of fish under their own valid recreational saltwater fishing licenses are species specific. Currently, for most species of saltwater fish, with the exception of snook, grouper and red snapper in federal waters, all persons aboard a charter vessel can keep a legal limit of fish if the paying passengers fish under the vessel license and the crew fish under their own valid licenses. For-hire guides may also keep a legal limit of fish while on duty with the exception of snook, grouper and red snapper in federal waters.
    Snook: The Florida Administrative Code (FAC), Chapter 68B-21.006 (3) for snook states: On any vessel licensed to carry customers wherein a fee is paid, either directly or indirectly, for the purpose of taking or attempting to take marine fish, the applicable bag and possession limit specified in this rule shall not extend to the operator of such vessel or any person employed as a crewman of such vessel.
    Grouper: Gulf of Mexico Fishery Management Council regulations prohibit the captain and crew of for-hire vessels from retaining a federal recreational bag limit of any grouper while under charter in the Gulf of Mexico. Please review the NOAA regulations.External Website The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission established a zero bag limit for Gulf gag, red and black grouper for captains and crew on for-hire vessels in or on state waters. Current information about grouper rules is available from the FWC Division of Marine Fisheries Management. You can read the rule in the FAC,External Website Chapter 68B-14.0036 (2)(d).
    Red Snapper: In 2008 new regulations were implemented for red snapper in federal waters of the Gulf of Mexico that, among other restrictions, prohibits the captain and crew of for-hire vessels from retaining the federal recreational bag limit. More information on federal action is available from the Gulf of Mexico Fishery Management Council.External Website Refer to the FWC saltwater fishing regulations for more information. The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission also established a zero bag limit for captain and crew of for hire vessels in Gulf state waters for red snapper. You can read the rule in the FAC,External Website Chapter 68B-14.0036(1)(c).
    An occupational license may be required by the city or county where you are doing business. Check with the city and county to see if you need an occupational license.

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    Plenty of unlicensed guides on this forum..

    Big Bend is full of them... for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Chance View Post
    K I am wrong LOL you better call the Coast Guard and ask them. .
    You are wrong. A USCG license is only required to transport passengers on a vessel. Boarding someone else's boat to teach them to fish or show them locations does not require a license.
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