Kingfish Tourney News4jax report. What a joke
July 29, 2010 - 7:16pm
News4jax aired this report about the kingfish tourney and the costs associated. If I was on the kingfish committee, I would be pissed. While I realize some people (few I wager), payed this amount to fish the tourney, I highly doubt its anywhere near the "average". We are trying to bring more people into the tournament, not scare them away.
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She has about a minute to report on the Kingfish tournament and she goes into a whole comparison about how many Cokes you could drink for the price? Terrible.
This post was modified at July 29, 2010 - 6:57pm (EST) by Sandflea
i run a 34 fountain with trip 225 merc optys and we used 210 gal total in 2 days and total we spent under 1200. ice $20 food $20 gas $600 bait $40 etc not much more... and im thinking we spent above average this year
Does anybody here really have a boat that can burn $800 of gas in one day???? Dayamn.
What do you guys expect from a left wing media outfit. You did notice on the bottom of the page that News4jax is owned by CNN and the Washinton Post right? What could they possibly know about fishing or as a matter of fact any recreational sport. They are the ones that are supporting the closures, taxing anything fun and restricting freedoms. That bottle of Diet Coke has more brains then the reporter holding onto it. Its pretty sad when the station knows it's viewers are so stupid that the only way they can actually relay the so-called cost of the tourney to its viewers is by comparing it to bottles of soda. Perhaps it would have been a better comparision to compare the tourney cost to there welfare checks. But that still probably wouldnt have put it into perspective because to them thats free money that someone owes them and they earned it. When in reality they havent earned junk. Our taxes are paying for them to sit on there *** all day long, pop babies out, smoke cigarettes and complain about how tough it is to be them.
What a joke. Switch channels already!
Doug
Thanks for the tangent Swamp Fisher, but that wasn't my point. I am more concerned about the local effects and how it would affect the numbers participating in the tournament. How many people would see this and say "no way could I afford that" and not even consider competing? The tournament is trying to up their numbers and this isn't helping.
We fished a single engine center console and I guarantee we kept it under 800 dollars including the 400 dollar entry fee.
And yes we do have a boat that can burn $800 in fuel in one day but I highly doubt we would be making a run to the ledge, trolling down to Daytona, turning around and trolling back for Kingfish. Especially when they are only a few miles from the beach if not right on top of it.
God that report got me ticked off. Why do the lefties always have to be worrying about what other people want to do with there money? They need to spend more time worrying about there own, what little they have left of ours that they stole, before reaching into our pockets and telling us they can fix our financial problems.
It would have been much more proper for her to just say "The tourney could be considered expensive for some. For most of our viewers, I don't recommend trying to head down to the ramp with your aluminum Jon boat with a 2.5 gallon tank of fuel, your favorite 3 cane poles, a coffee can of night crawlers, and a cooler full of 6 Steel Reserves and no ice. You might be slightly out of your league."
Doug
We burned 187 gallons one day high-speeding for wahoo in the Grady and that was only $682 at the marina when we got back, and we went all the way to the ledge and beyond. Seems you would need a large boat with lots of motors to burn $800 in a day kingfishing, unless you ran to Canaveral.
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Anyone who is intelligent enough to know what a kingfish even is or has the means to own a boat and pay an entry fee, certainly isn't stupid enough to be persuaded by that report. Chances are nobody even saw it anyway. However, it was an extremely ridiculous and wildly inaccurate report.
If they really wanted to keep a fisherman out of a kingfish tournament just show some news footage of people trolling over each other or what the boat ramps look like on a tournament day.
And we are to believe we don't get the same rhetoric from the right? Wrong. They are just as good at slanting the news to benefit their bias too. Listen, I believe in the principles of the Republicans but the only way to get a balanced view is to listen to all views, do research yourself and educate yourself on candidate policies. The problem is most people don't and they take fear mongering rhetoric opinions as truth. that's exactly how we ended up in a socialist government today. I currently have little faith in either party but hope Nov proves that people are fed up with hope and change and ultimately vote that nappy head yoyo in Washington out next election.
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The report that channel 4 ran was a joke. For them to come on and report that "on average" this is what it costs to fish the tournament and some spend even more is just wrong. I can see going to my wife if I had never fished this tournament and telling her I want to drop $3000 to fish it. Certainly doesn't help draw new folks into this tournament with reports like this. I just posted a poll on this forum, would be interesting to see the results from the local guys. Let it include basically the same items they included in the channel 4 report. Entry fee, gas, bait, ice, food and drinks. Then we can send it to channel 4 and ask them to demonstrate thruth in reporting
WOW!! Where did she get those figures from?????? I mean for 2 days my team spent $1300.00 and actually that is a LOT! lol I certainly do not want to be on the boat that has to spend $3000 a day to catch a kingfish.
I have emailed her my "opinion" of the report. Lets see what she comes back with. If I get a reply, I will post it.
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Not me but a few of my friends do.... on the big 68' Hatteras ....$$$$$$ no finer boat to fish
Since I have a small boat, I get no where near the $3k mark. It sounds like a SWAG to me.
Rob
Prefishing=GAS$$$$$$
Bait=$$$$$$$ Runners and gogs if you buy them are 120 a dozen.Ribbons arent cheap either.
Terminal Tackle= Respoling ur reels, wire, hooks etc.$$$$$$
Entry=$$$$$$
Back in the day, really only about 8 to 10 years ago i think they were still getting 700-1,000 boats...since then it has fell off dramatically. The only reason i can think is the cost to fish it and really be competitive costs $$$$$...payouts suk. The economy went down the tubes...and most of the guys fishin were in the construction biz...they lost all their stuff including the BOAT.
They were a bit high on the "average" i feel but were only a few hundred off here and their.
I guess if ur the dude that just puts his boat in and fishes the local beach or the local wrecks or neashore bottom, doesnt do any prefishing, doesent make sure his equipment is ready, doesent buy bait....well then ya, you didnt spend very much.To tell you the truth....thats the guy that usually wins.(but not this year....it was the guy that ran to canaveral that won)....and i bet ya he spent alot more than 3G overall.
jblocal, you are missing the point. While someone may have spent that much, it is very far from the "average". And don't include "prefishing" that's not what she said. I guarantee, the average is closer to $1200
I agree that this report does nothing but make the sport seem like you need big money to compete?? In the end this is a mindless report.....like much reporting we see today on all TV stations regardless of political leaning. Unfortunately, the reporter has NO CLUE about what is being reported on (neither does the anchor) and is merely filling in TV time. It sounded to me that someone provided this reporter data points to use in the report -- albeit these numbers DO NOT reflect the 'average' in any way. Look at the data points
$800/ day for fuel. If the boat got 1.2 MPG and fuel was $3.60/gallon this equates to 222 gallons per day or a roundtrip run of 266 miles per day. The equivalent of running from Jax to Cape Canaveral to the South or Jax to the Savannah Ship channel to the North? During both days, I counted more than 100 teams fishing the beach locally...we fished both days and burned less than 200 gallons including a 25 WOT run back home from the weigh in????
$300/ day for bait. Could easilly be spent with runners/gogs @125/dozen and ribbons at $4 each at Strrike Zone but it was also free off the beach with a cast net.
200 for ice and food for 4 people. A bit high but it could be done.
$400 entry.....no getting away from this.
Too bad that this station decided to run a report that makes the tournament seem untouchable to the 'average' angler.
This post was modified at July 31, 2010 - 8:12am (EST) by FishDancer
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The beauty of the greater jax tourney is that it is held right in the middle of July....and fish can be caught anywhere.....offshore, or on the beach, north or south, or right in our backyard.
Maybe they should interview some local fishermen, and break it down, to get it more realistic.
I know that I don't spend nowhere near that amount on any tournament. Bait is usually readily had either from the beach or by catching and penning up some croakers and pins and spots, like we do....just in case bait is scarce the day before....we'll have a dozen or so when we break the inlet.
If your company has an ice machine, you can bag up ice ...as much as you can daily....and freeze it ahead of time and not have to pay a dime for ice.
In my case food is covered
with all the sandwiches I could eat....but nothing beats a nice cold fruit bowl, full of grapes and watermelon and cantelope kept on ice....on those hot summer days.
Also if you pick your plan and area to fish and stick to it, and not run all over after radio fish, you'll save bundles on gas. Bottom line is, I have been fishing king tourneys for over 20 years, and I do it on a shoestring budget....It can be done easily.....and probably more do it this way, than is given credit for.
Steve
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The last two day King tourney we fished didn't come close to that.
$400 gas
$100 bait (ribbons)
$400 entree
$50 food
$150 Fuel in truck
$50 tackle (dusters and ribbon rigs)
$1,150 split between 4 guys not too bad with a $5,000 win. We logged 140 miles on the GPS for the two days.
I agree that reports like this will turn people away from tourneys.
This post was modified at August 1, 2010 - 6:49am (EST) by tightlinesinga
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I took a moment to email the reporter that did this report. She was very understanding and said that the figures that she got and used was given to her by the captain of Whiskey Bent, the person that she interviewed in the report. She also stated that she ran those number by the committee and they a thumbs up.
I explained exactly my costs for the tournament and explained that we (forum brothers) felt that the report, although good for the sport for coverage, was really bad and possibly could turn others away that where on the fence for entering this tournament.
She has asked if she could give me a call next year to do a "better" job in reporting TRUE figures in her reports.
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Conversed with her as well thru emails the other night and I think she sincerely feels bad about "missing the mark" on this report. Her intent was to portray the passion we anglers feel about this sport and tournament, even in a down economy. She wants to get it right, maybe even do a report on fishing the tournament "on a tight budget" for us weekend warriors. I'm sure some of these sponsored guys can drop a few thousand on a weekend but most of us guys aren't sponsored and watch what we spend.
You can spend as much or as little as you want on mackeral tournaments.
I can easily spend 2k in a 2day tourny and will if need be, but I can also spend 1000 on the same tourny and fish the same areas.
Before the local mackeral population was destroyed and fishing in 100ft plus water was where 90% of tourny's were won and placed in you needed to invest the money to have a real shot at a tournament winner, or at least consistant 30+lb fish.
Now with our mostly migratory kingfish stock getting "local" bait and fishing old school you can fish almost any boat for 800-1200 bucks depending on how many motors you have.
For the record this year I spent 1300 and won 0.....
Last year I spent 1300 and won 2200.....
Year before 2,000 and won 8,000......
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Kingfish Tourney . What a joke
capt mikey....bigger joke
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