5/21 FP- Hand lining Goliaths

So my buddy Harry aka (Floridaboy) bought a spool of heavy duty hand line to try up aginst the massive goliaths. Sounded crazy but we gave it a shot. We loaded up the boat and headed straight to the Boils. After getting some threadfins, we started fishin! We caught a few big jacks and kept them for the goliaths. About 30 of fishin I pulled in a decent sized under slot gag grouper!:thumbsup After catching the jacks we rigged up and dropped one down. Two minutes of soaking and Harry gets slammed almost pulling him in. Fought him for a minute until he snapped the hand line. Quick re-rig and we send another one down, took a little longer but he gets crushed again. But once again the massive goliath tore through the rig. We got worked!:cool Decided to then head in and stop to drift FP inlet with the rest of our threadfins. The second drift I get thumped and pull up a fat 26inch redfish! Did one more drift and called it a day, overall a very exciting day on the water!

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  • JimmytalkJimmytalk Posts: 587 Officer
    Nice red.

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  • Cat173Cat173 Posts: 106 Officer
    Sounds like the perfect way to spend a Monday. Good job :full
  • IdlewildeIdlewilde Posts: 1,357 Officer
    When I was a kid, we (my buddy & I) fished for Jewfish with a 1/2 inch manila rope and 6 ft of 1/8 inch chain attached to a hook the size of your hand - we weighed the biggest one we caught, and it was right at 600 lbs.
  • Fi$h2nguyenFi$h2nguyen Posts: 7,779 Moderator
    Awesome!! Can't wait to try tug of war with a Goliath!
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    Keeping busy while away from Florida

    https://www.youtube.com/user/UFpwrLifter/videos?view_as=public
  • Capt.AWCapt.AW Posts: 925 Officer
    I haven't had any issues with the 400lb I have set up on my yoyo. Harry watched me get broke off for the first time the other week, but that was because of a poor knot. Crimps and crimp tool would have been nice to have that day.

    Nice work on the red.
  • FloridaBoyFloridaBoy Posts: 284 Officer
    Adam I tried 250lb dacron and as soon as it touched the structure down there it cut right off. I went and got some rope and will be prepared next time. It was a little rough while we were there and it was hard enough to stay standing on the flats boat. Will dedinately bring more bait next time also, it was just a quick trip not really planned. Whenever you wanna go out and give em a try again im down!
  • TCanglerTCangler Posts: 34 Deckhand
    Yea we definitely have to spool up with some of that 400lb line or chain!! we got to try again next time its calm out
  • capt_toddttcapt_toddtt Posts: 159 Officer
    The dacron will work but as you found out you definitely have to keep it off the structure. I rig with with 600Lb X-tra hard mono top shot (30 feet) spliced into the dacron. It's tight (which is good) but it will fit. That x-tra hard mono is beyond cut resistant - you cannot kill it. We slay them at will - pics and video are on my website www.insideoutfishing.com

    Good luck to you guys!
    Todd
  • TCanglerTCangler Posts: 34 Deckhand
    We're going to have to try that stuff because were pretty sure it was structure that fish got into! Your video's are sick by the way! Thanks for the help Capt. Todd!
  • capt_toddttcapt_toddtt Posts: 159 Officer
    Sure thing - go get 'em!! Thanks for the compliment on the videos.

    Todd
  • FloridaBoyFloridaBoy Posts: 284 Officer
    Thanks capt toddtt, going to check your videos now. I meant to pick up some of that weed eater line but the tackle shop i checked was out, cant wait to get out again!
    Im pretty sure I saw you at the stan blum ramp at the boat cleaning station last week or so. I was with another buddy of mine in a 20' pathfinder in front of you. After we left i was like that was capt todd off the forum, i should have said hello.
  • capt_toddttcapt_toddtt Posts: 159 Officer
    Heck yeah next time come say hello!!
  • Permit RatPermit Rat Posts: 2,282 Officer
    Idlewilde wrote: »
    When I was a kid, we (my buddy & I) fished for Jewfish with a 1/2 inch manila rope and 6 ft of 1/8 inch chain attached to a hook the size of your hand - we weighed the biggest one we caught, and it was right at 600 lbs.

    I was gonna say......This is also the way the Key West natives fished for jewfish. And as guides, all the Key West light tackle guides had "jewfish lines" in their boats at all times. Mine consisted of a length of parachute cord, followed by about 4 lbs. of trolling weights; crimped (swedged?) cable and a huge hook. If we were fishing on a Gulf wreck and started losing fish to "something" below, then over went the jewfish line, cleated at the stern. If it was a big fish, starting the boat's engine and idling forward a few feet, kept the fish out of the wreck. We always sold our jewfish to a favorite Key West Cuban restaurant. "Guasa," was a Cuban dish to die for and my mouth still waters at the thought of this, now over 20 years ago.
    .......Rick
  • snook87snook87 Posts: 1,707 Officer
    Very cool. At least you got worked and not skunked. I'll have to let you use my Goliath rod and reel setup.
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  • ShoelessShoeless Posts: 2,064 Captain
    Thanks for the report. It's great reading other comments on this thread as I have never targeted Goliaths. Maybe I give it a go one day.
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  • snook87snook87 Posts: 1,707 Officer
    Remember that FWC prohibits the target fishing of goliaths, as I was told by one of there agents that were on the water. Yeah you see them do it on tv but some shows get special permission to do it but also remember if you catch one and take a pic of it, it must remain in the water. Once it's out of the water FWC considers it harvested. Just a hint for those who didn't know the rules.
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  • capt_toddttcapt_toddtt Posts: 159 Officer
    Snook87 please show us where FWC prohibits "targeting" Goliaths. Not trying to start an argument but I believe this is incorrect information. You are correct to about removal from the water. But that has nothing to do with "targeting them". If it is prohibited how could a TV show get permission to break the law? The link at the bottom of this post has all of FWC's info about the do's and don'ts of Goliath. It includes information on proper catch and release techniques and also proper photography guidelines. Nowhere is there a single sentence about avoiding catching them - just what to do when you do catch one to protect them and stay legal. I do target this species on a fairly regular basis and of course I want to stay within the regs so I read up. If I have missed something please point me in the right direction. Again I am not trying to start trouble - just want to make sure we all have accurate info. Thanks man.

    http://myfwc.com/fishing/saltwater/regulations/goliath-grouper/catch-and-release/
  • snook87snook87 Posts: 1,707 Officer
    Snook87 please show us where FWC prohibits "targeting" Goliaths. Not trying to start an argument but I believe this is incorrect information. You are correct to about removal from the water. But that has nothing to do with "targeting them". If it is prohibited how could a TV show get permission to break the law? The link at the bottom of this post has all of FWC's info about the do's and don'ts of Goliath. It includes information on proper catch and release techniques and also proper photography guidelines. Nowhere is there a single sentence about avoiding catching them - just what to do when you do catch one to protect them and stay legal. I do target this species on a fairly regular basis and of course I want to stay within the regs so I read up. If I have missed something please point me in the right direction. Again I am not trying to start trouble - just want to make sure we all have accurate info. Thanks man.

    http://myfwc.com/fishing/saltwater/regulations/goliath-grouper/catch-and-release/

    Well a few years back i had posted a picture on a public site of me holding a goliath that we caught at a bridge, still in the water unhurt and a few day later a FWC investigator came to talk to me. had gave me a long talk, took my camera pics, and told me what you can and cant do. He said if your targeting the species directly its written in the Florida Administrative Code that you cant "target them directly". If I can find the officers name ill PM you his phone number and he can tell you exactly where in the FAC it states it. He is a local officer that drives around a white unmarked undercover F150 if thats the same guy still. I just wanted to share a heads up. I also heard through some sources that Capt George Gozdz also got the talking to about fishing for goliaths and maybe ask him about the rules too. TV shows also tell you what you cant do as well. I believe it was an episode with Henry Waszczuk explained about how tv shows were allowed to "target" them. They are fun to catch no doubt and its great fun. Ill still fish for them but not directly to save my behind and so no questions can be raised.
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  • Plane Fish nPlane Fish n Posts: 6,428 Admiral
    Solid job there guys!!!!
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    Eric
    PLANE FISH N
  • capt_toddttcapt_toddtt Posts: 159 Officer
    Thanks snook87 - I really appreciate the good sharing of information. It's amazing (and sad) how many regs we fishermen have to deal with these days. Imagine getting in a jam over something written into some obscure administrative code buried deep in some legaleeze wording. After reading your original post I went digging for more info on the states website and couldn't really find anything but thats not to say its not there somewhere. I do know my head hurt from trying to wade through all the documents.

    Thanks again and please do PM me if you do find out more.

    Take care :)
  • TCanglerTCangler Posts: 34 Deckhand
    snook87 wrote: »
    Very cool. At least you got worked and not skunked. I'll have to let you use my Goliath rod and reel setup.

    yea man you should come out there some time with us! and thanks for the info on the goliaths
  • snook87snook87 Posts: 1,707 Officer
    Thanks snook87 - I really appreciate the good sharing of information. It's amazing (and sad) how many regs we fishermen have to deal with these days. Imagine getting in a jam over something written into some obscure administrative code buried deep in some legaleeze wording. After reading your original post I went digging for more info on the states website and couldn't really find anything but thats not to say its not there somewhere. I do know my head hurt from trying to wade through all the documents.

    Thanks again and please do PM me if you do find out more.

    Take care :)

    You have to go to the correct revision. Its there somewhere cause I looked it up after the FWC officer told me where it was posted (the warning ticket had the FAC rule on it) and read what the law stated ( https://www.flrules.org/gateway/Division.asp?DivID=348 ). I just figured it would be a harmless thing anyways since they were caught and let go immediately (a 450lb fish is hard to hold up for a pic anyways) and the officer agreed but after i told him we were targeting them the officer told me so i doubt he would BS me. If you ask a FWC officer to look it up he'll point you where it is if hes not a newbie. I just from then on never post pics of fish that are protected and dont talk about them so theres no question.
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