Tide vs time of day?

KableguyKableguy Posts: 1 Greenhorn
I'm new to fishing Florida and new to saltwater. I fish mainly from shore or near shore. My question is this. In Ohio where I'm from during the summer the best times to fish are right at sunrise and sunset. I would be on the water at sunup and the bite usually dies off by 10AM. I know that tide greatly affects fishing here. If the best tide flow of the day is let's say at 11:00 AM  is it better to be on the water at sunup or during the best tide time. Just fishing for inshore/near-shore species. I know fish will seek shade from the hot sun, but will they bite during the day? Thanks.

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  • Rich MRich M Posts: 961 Officer
    You will find that it varies.  LOL!

    Tide has a lot of influence in areas with current flow - outgoing often trumps incoming - but not always.

    Flats & surf  fishing is often best in the early hours of the morning.

    Feed periods often have some effect - you need to journal your fishing for a while and see if it makes a diff where you fish.
  • DropTheHammerDropTheHammer East CoastPosts: 341 Deckhand
    Yeah we know.

    Ball park answer. Magic hour, new moon, during an ebb or flood.
    It varies from species to species, time of year or season and location.
    Nothing is written in stone. ;)



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  • DrKDrK Posts: 231 Deckhand
    The answer is yes, they will bite once the tide moves even in the middle of the day but it becomes golden when the sunrise and sunset synchs with tide movement.  Looking at the situation you presented, the bright side of it is that they just might be biting the whole day.  
  • GarysmoGarysmo Posts: 348 Deckhand
    I usually go more by tide if I'm fishing the beach/surf.  For inshore I fish the shallow mangroves and I usually fish late mostly because that's when I go out.  I've caught fish in high and low tide....for me mostly dependent on water quality
  • mikenavmikenav Posts: 647 Officer
    I always go by tide more than time of day. If it's going to be rolling out of the inlet at 11:30 a.m., I get out there about 11 or so, just to get set right and make sure I'm there when they're likely to be biting. That said, sunrise and sunset will almost always get you some action, even if it's not the specific type -- snook, tarpon, etc. -- that you're looking for. 
  • ljkljk Posts: 47 Greenhorn
    I lived in the Keys for 12 years.  Most of my fishing buddies lived there longer, and some were/are commerical fishermen.  We found that the tides and moonphase (apps like Tides4Fishing) were influences, some days more than others. 

    But we found the overriding factor to be time of day.  Sunrise and sunset, and the hours before and after both, were when we had the best fishing, most of the time.
  • saltybluegrasssaltybluegrass Posts: 53 Greenhorn
    edited July 7 #8
    does anyone use this?  https://www.tide-forecast.com/locations/Stuart-Saint-Lucie-River-Florida/tides/latest
    we also have a new moon coming. 
    i’ve been fishing the incoming tide off the beach but reading here , i may switch to outgoing. 
    I thought the high tide would make predation easier close to shore in deeper water. Guess i’ll throw out further 
  • DropTheHammerDropTheHammer East CoastPosts: 341 Deckhand
    This weeks high tide is going to be somewhat next weeks low tide.

    On low tide I find it easier to read structure. You are anticipating. How do I better the odds?

    https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/education.html

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  • ScoutboatScoutboat Posts: 1,745 Captain
    Fishing the tides have nothing to do with the time of day.
    Fish the first of the incoming and the last of the out going.
    When water movement is at the greatest.
    Jim 
  • DropTheHammerDropTheHammer East CoastPosts: 341 Deckhand
    edited July 7 #11
    Flood vs Ebb tide period
    Spring vs Neap tide period
    ocean current speed
    Slack high and Slack low

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  • FishInFLFishInFL Posts: 1,972 Captain
    @DropTheHammer - **** is all that supposed to mean?

    the OP understands the difference but is curious whether more value should be placed on the time of day or the tidal movement.  It’s a good question.


  • DropTheHammerDropTheHammer East CoastPosts: 341 Deckhand
    Scoutboat said:
    Fishing the tides have nothing to do with the time of day.
    Fish the first of the incoming and the last of the out going.
    When water movement is at the greatest.
    Jim 
    FishInFL said:
    @DropTheHammer - **** is all that supposed to mean?

    the OP understands the difference but is curious whether more value should be placed on the time of day or the tidal movement.  It’s a good question.


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  • FishInFLFishInFL Posts: 1,972 Captain
    **** I fell for the troll!  Well done
  • saltybluegrasssaltybluegrass Posts: 53 Greenhorn
    FishInFL said:
    @DropTheHammer - **** is all that supposed to mean?

    the OP understands the difference but is curious whether more value should be placed on the time of day or the tidal movement.  It’s a good question.


    i was gonna resound w- 
    I agree with your assumptions however , do you like chartreuse over yellow? 
  • DropTheHammerDropTheHammer East CoastPosts: 341 Deckhand
    edited July 8 #16
    It's repetitive. It all matters on the species.













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  • Rich MRich M Posts: 961 Officer
    I do enjoy the obnoxious attitude.  The statement about it depending on the species is dead on.

    FL is loaded with fish and they all have slightly to totally different habits.  Figure out what you want to catch and then figure out how to catch them.
  • SaltygatorvetSaltygatorvet TallahasseePosts: 2,078 Captain
    FishInFL said:
    @DropTheHammer - **** is all that supposed to mean?

    the OP understands the difference but is curious whether more value should be placed on the time of day or the tidal movement.  It’s a good question.


    Jesus, really!!!. His thoughts are all over the place. I can never understand what he’s trying to say. I appreciate the enthusiasm, but I have to scroll through without reading cause I just get confused 
    You should have been here yesterday
  • SaltygatorvetSaltygatorvet TallahasseePosts: 2,078 Captain
    Scoutboat said:
    Fishing the tides have nothing to do with the time of day.
    Fish the first of the incoming and the last of the out going.
    When water movement is at the greatest.
    Jim 
    FishInFL said:
    @DropTheHammer - **** is all that supposed to mean?

    the OP understands the difference but is curious whether more value should be placed on the time of day or the tidal movement.  It’s a good question.


    You trust me?

    No, cause I can never understand what your trying to say... what does any of it mean???
    You should have been here yesterday
  • DropTheHammerDropTheHammer East CoastPosts: 341 Deckhand
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  • DropTheHammerDropTheHammer East CoastPosts: 341 Deckhand
    Reading structure at low tide.
    wind against tide. Ledges, channels


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  • SaltygatorvetSaltygatorvet TallahasseePosts: 2,078 Captain
    edited July 8 #22
    Again, totally all over the place and utterly confusing. Could you just say what you want to say without the videos and cut and paste? Do you really expect someone to watch a 3 min video to try to understand your point. It’s you not me
    You should have been here yesterday
  • DropTheHammerDropTheHammer East CoastPosts: 341 Deckhand
    I'll explain it to you It's easy. Certain times of the month there's more flow.
    That's when you want to be there. In the wee hours of the night when there's
    no traffic and sending out vibrations. It's quiet and this is when it all happens.




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  • Kill_It_N_Grill_ItKill_It_N_Grill_It fort lauderdalePosts: 31 Greenhorn
    most of my best luck for inshore happens to fall with the outgoing tide. but it does greatly apply to water conditions and most importantly, what type of fish are the target for the day.

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