Port Canaveral Rail Plan Threatens Northern Banana River

If you are concerned about kayak fishing in the No Motor Zone or fishing anyplace else in the northern Banana and Indian River lagoons, please take a moment to read these couple of items on the proposed earthen-dam railway that the Canaveral Port Authority wants to erect through the No Motor Zone, Merritt Island National Wildlife Refuge and world's largest manatee sanctuary.
http://ow.ly/Msens

Also, check this out to see how the Canaveral Port Authority is responding:
http://ow.ly/Mseqm

To learn more about the petition against this plan, visit: http://ow.ly/Msetz

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  • KeyWestCaptainKeyWestCaptain Posts: 41 Deckhand
    Here's a link to new blog on rail plan: http://ow.ly/Musok
  • Gary S. ColecchioGary S. Colecchio Posts: 24,922 Officer
    ...the proposed earthen-dam railway that the Canaveral Port Authority wants to erect through the No Motor Zone, Merritt Island National Wildlife Refuge and world's largest manatee sanctuary.

    :huh I thought it was planned to be a bridge?
    "If I can't win, I won't play." - Doris Colecchio.

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  • Riptide31Riptide31 Posts: 467 Deckhand
    I'd be for the train...........but it doesnt have any stops in Brevard County. It's not going to bring any business/tourists here from what I understand.
  • ACME Ventures FishingACME Ventures Fishing Posts: 851 Officer
    While there are serious concerns the "No Fill, No Kill" opposition premises is based on the idea of
    miles of Earthen causeway like exist with MOST other roads and rail lines in the region now. The
    Proposal for this Rail Line is NOT an earthen causeway but a trestle and pile structure that allows full
    water flow. They are also stating that oyster matting would likely be added to the piles which would
    actually improve water quality from what it is now. I doubt that anything today could pass the required
    EIS that's coming without taking the environment into consideration. The port is doing their own in
    advance of what would be mandated.

    Its easy to "Just Say No" but progress and commerce is coming one way or another and its better to
    be involved in making it the best possible than to "Just Say No". Without the train, there will be many
    hundreds of extra trucks on the road daily cross the 528 corridor which pollutes the environment much
    much more than 1 train would. This proposed pathway is a compromise to the one paralleling 528 that
    would have allowed passenger traffic in the future. That would have widened the existing earthen causeways
    and impacted many more homes however and was shuttered. Apparently train horns would not be used and
    much of the route would be on existing rail lines on federal property.

    Everything we see now on the cape has been reshaped and rerouted by infrastructure designed and built before
    any real environmental consideration was given and nature adapted. The bridges and causeways we have now
    offer great fishing spots for thousands. The new proposal will be forced to abide by new strict environmental
    impact requirements, but once done will likely add to both fishing and conservation conditions. The Port ha posted
    a fact sheet that spells out their current proposal. When they closed the ramps in Port Canaveral and built the new
    ones, we worked with them and held them to what they agreed to. It was going to happen one way or another and
    rather than letting them choose and do as they pleased, we got involved and shaped the process to what was best
    for all.
  • Riptide31Riptide31 Posts: 467 Deckhand
    more pilings = more fish structure. Now get it to make a stop in Brevard.
  • Pucker FactorPucker Factor Posts: 874 Officer
    OP has either made up the information or has a bad source. It is not going to be an earthen fill and I am pretty certain that was never really on the table.
  • flattitudeflattitude Posts: 536 Officer
    I still don't see how this thing isn't a giant money losing proposition to begin with. Several economists advised it would be a double digit million dollar a year loss. With ticket prices at 140$ per person from miami to orlando my family of 4 would cost 560$ one way. They are out of their mind thinking this will be a good thing and actually make money .
  • Gary S. ColecchioGary S. Colecchio Posts: 24,922 Officer
    I think its more about moving things rather than people.
    "If I can't win, I won't play." - Doris Colecchio.

    "Well Gary, the easiest way to look tall is to stand in a room full of short people." - Curtis Bostick

    "All these forums, with barely any activity, are like a neglected old cemetery that no one visits anymore."- anonymouse
  • CountryBumpkinCountryBumpkin Fla. Piney WoodsPosts: 1,277 Officer
    I think some who are posting are confused. :huh

    This post has nothing to do with the Miami to Orlando people moving trains proposal.

    This is about new rails to move cargo out of Port Canaveral. They are not satisfied to be just a huge cruise ship port, but also want to become a much larger cargo port.

    I say......I say son.......new & improved my tail feathers.

  • surfmansurfman WC FLPosts: 3,931 Captain
    I believe there is also a ship turnaround basin proposal too near the area, need to go back and look at what is all involved.
    Tight Lines, Steve
    My posts are my opinion only.

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