What might I need a larger conventional reel/rod combo for in tampa bay?

tbtballtbtball Posts: 7 Greenhorn
I am currently living in VA and fishing Chesapeake Bay. I am outfitting myself with a relatively heavy conventional combo for Striper trolling here. I have a 19ft shallow-draft bay boat (Sea-Pro SV1900) so I wouldn't be fishing big water. Before I bought a rod/reel combo for VA, I thought I'd see if I could get one that would do double duty for both Bays (TPA and Chesapeake). I have been posting a bit on this forum and seems most prefer spinning reels for fishing around the bay, even for the larger species such as tarpon and grouper. So my question is this: would I need a medium heavy/heavy conventional setup like a Penn 320GT and matching rod for Tampa Bay fishing and if so, what would I use it for? Is there anything that a heavier spinning setup wouldn't work well for?

Thanks so much,
TBT

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  • nuclearfishnnuclearfishn Posts: 8,348 Admiral
    for grouper and tarpon.
    Shimano Trevala spinning rod. in the 60-100 pound class . Diawa 6000 Saltist will handle most any thing you going to run into Tampa bay. I use 65 pound test.
  • Jack HexterJack Hexter New Port RicheyPosts: 3,989 Moderator
    I really do not like spinning tackle for bottom fishing. There is just too much torque when the gears have to change from one plane, 90* to the next gear, to haul a fish off the bottom. Personally, I use a Trinidad 30 and a Saltiga 40 for bottom fishing. I put these reels on a fast action rod with a lot of guts at the butt to lift the fish. Remember, the rod beats the fish, not the reel. A Saltist 30 or 40 would also do nicely, as would a Tekota 600 or 700 if you want a levelwind, which I shy away from. Any of these reels would do nicely for your striper fishing up north.

    These reels would also be good for tarpon when fishing deep, such as in Boca Grande, or off Egmont, but typically when beach fishing, you want/need a rod/reel that you can cast a pilchard or crab, necessitating a spinner. For this, I recommend a 4500 or 5000 Daiwa Saltist filled with 50# braid. Put it in a Shimano Terramar 8' XH rod, and you have one of the most popular tarpon outfits I sell
  • Prop BlastProp Blast Posts: 375 Officer
    If you can avoid a level-wind for bottomfishing, do it. Take a hard look at Daiwa's Sealine 400H for grouper/snapper here, on a 7' rod rated for 30-50lbs. Spool it with good quality 30 or 40lbs mono like Ande Premium and you're in good shape.

    PB
  • ReelinrudyReelinrudy Posts: 294 Officer
    You can find use for anything up to a 14/0 in Tampa bay. It's all about what you wanna fish for. I would not recommend a levelwind like a gt for anything though. You'd be better served with a few 4/0 senator setups for bottom fishing and for tarpon.
  • SnookmeisterSnookmeister Posts: 1,035 Officer
    That's sounds like a good setup for trolling for lunker snook or dueling them on bridge fenders. Would be good for poons too.
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  • tbtballtbtball Posts: 7 Greenhorn
    What might one troll for inside the bay with the rods that have been recommended? Snookmeister, forgive my ignorance, but how/what do you troll for Snook?

    I will be getting a heavy spinning rod to cover the casting end of things so I just looking for the most versatile setup for a conventional reel/rod. I could see myself doing some bottom-fishing and some fishing for Tarpon around the bridges. I did find this setup at a local shop that they are selling for striper trolling--Tekoa 700 http://www.greentophuntfish.com/green-top-shimano-tekota-700-combo.html I also found a Penn Senator 114 combo for around $200 as well.

    One last question: Is there a difference in gearing, drag, etc between reels for trolling and bottom fishing? I have a line on a good deal on a used TLD 25 but was told by some others that this was overkill for trolling but not strong enough for bottom fishing.

    Thanks so much,
    TBT
  • reel stamasreel stamas Posts: 6,151 Admiral
    I'd argue that for the type of fishing your describing, a TLD-25 will do it all just fine...
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  • ReelinrudyReelinrudy Posts: 294 Officer
    tbtball wrote: »
    What might one troll for inside the bay with the rods that have been recommended? Snookmeister, forgive my ignorance, but how/what do you troll for Snook?

    I will be getting a heavy spinning rod to cover the casting end of things so I just looking for the most versatile setup for a conventional reel/rod. I could see myself doing some bottom-fishing and some fishing for Tarpon around the bridges. I did find this setup at a local shop that they are selling for striper trolling--Tekoa 700 http://www.greentophuntfish.com/green-top-shimano-tekota-700-combo.html I also found a Penn Senator 114 combo for around $200 as well.

    One last question: Is there a difference in gearing, drag, etc between reels for trolling and bottom fishing? I have a line on a good deal on a used TLD 25 but was told by some others that this was overkill for trolling but not strong enough for bottom fishing.

    Thanks so much,
    TBT

    Depends on the trolling, but a tld-25 would likely be overkill for trolling for snook, but a lot of guys use them for grouper trolling. For bottom fishing a senator or daiwa sealine is a better option though.
  • tbtballtbtball Posts: 7 Greenhorn
    Thanks for all the advice. I am planning on getting a Penn Senator 113 4/0 mostly for my striper fishing up here that I could use for a little bottom fishing or trolling Tampa Bay once I move. I decided to ditch the levelwind and keep it simple. Do you guys who do bottom fish, fish braid? What kind of bottom fishing is possible inside the bay? Also, is the 4/0 size about right? When I do move I will get one of the nicer spinning setups for some serious Tarpon fishing.

    thanks again,
    TBT
  • Killer&GrillerKiller&Griller Posts: 1 Greenhorn
    I agree with the above about staying away from the LW reels.

    You might find that if you post up a budget that you are wanting to spend, you will probably get more specific options mentioned to you along with deals that other members might see out there.

    Good luck with your search.
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  • tbtballtbtball Posts: 7 Greenhorn
    Thanks for all the advice. I just picked up a Diawa Sealine 400H almost new on eBay for $85. I'll pair that with an Ugly Stick Big Water Boat Rod. Think that'll work? Still going to pick up a high class tarpon spinning set up one day once I get some $$ saved up, but figure this is a good, versatile set-up for all sorts of fishing.

    TBT
  • Michael RepperMichael Repper Posts: 4,897 Officer
    I'm an inshore fisherman up here in the Panhandle, so hopefully I'm not derailing too far, but what's wrong with level winds for bottom fishing? I ask because I had a commercial buddy who would go for on trips for weeks at a time digging Grouper and Snapper and we went on a headboat together one time. I just use the conventionals provided since I don't have any of my own. He brought his own conventional level-wind which was much smaller than the ones provided. He used a much smaller hook than most also. I was cutting hand sized chunks of Bonito for bait, and he used half of an entire side of a bonito as his bait with his small hook and small reel. Dude caught the biggest Grouper on the boat.

    BTW, he was using braid. I'm just curious because I'd like to have my own set-up next time I go out on a headboat and I always figured his seemed pretty sweet.

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