where does the term cracker come from?

i always like to hear originations of local names, how does cracker come into play?

ill share one too, alot of people consider Louisianaians "cajuns". The term stems back from when the acadians were run out from there homeland. They settled in undeveloped far out stretches of the swamp where they created there own niche'. gators, shrimp etc... over time with the different accents it evovled... Acadians, ah-cadiuns, ah-cajuns, and finally CAJUNS!! i always found that to be interesting. GEAUX TIGERS!!

another useless tidbit that many dont know (from my motorboat operator instructor days) is how port and starboard became such. I dont remmber dates or eras and if you want that nitty gritty LOOK IT UP lol. at some point in history as larger boats (instead of dugouts) came into play a system was needed to steer the boat. a board (more or less a fixed paddle) was afixxed to the right side of the boat and this is where the person steering the boat would sit. this board was called... a STARboard (no idea why). obviously, since it was fixed you did not want to come to port with that side of the boat and rick breaking your starboard, hence the left side was always used to PORT! Some of the details may be a little off, anyone who knows more specific feel free to correct me, but that is the basis of the nomenclature still in use today!
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  • Moon ShadowMoon Shadow Posts: 764 Officer
    I read just a few days ago what cracker meant. Years ago This area was heavy in cattle. The handlers controls the cattle with a 10 foot whip. When they cracked the whip the noise was loud like a gun shot. So people started calling them crackers because of the cracking of the whip. There probably more reasons but this one does make sense.
  • Travis GTravis G Posts: 490 Deckhand
    I read just a few days ago what cracker meant. Years ago This area was heavy in cattle. The handlers controls the cattle with a 10 foot whip. When they cracked the whip the noise was loud like a gun shot. So people started calling them crackers because of the cracking of the whip. There probably more reasons but this one does make sense.



    true strory
  • troutman57troutman57 Posts: 3,691 Officer
    I read just a few days ago what cracker meant. Years ago This area was heavy in cattle. The handlers controls the cattle with a 10 foot whip. When they cracked the whip the noise was loud like a gun shot. So people started calling them crackers because of the cracking of the whip. There probably more reasons but this one does make sense.
    I agree with MS...and I found the original term was "Georgia Crackers" They were the cattleman that drove thier livestock through southern Georgia and into Florida. Then Georgia embraced the "southern charm" ideals and left Florida with the crackers.
    This place Rocks if yer a crabber
  • magotmagot Posts: 6,640 Officer
    Moon is correct.

    It tickles me when some Florida rednecks (And you know who you are!) proudly call themselves crackers when they've never been within a hundred yards of a live cow. th_tooth.gif
  • APEAPE Posts: 972 Officer
    Moon is correct, cattlemen would drive cattle South through the state to be taken toward Tampa then sent to Cuba. The cattlemen would use the whips to herd them, cracking the whip makes a sound like a 22 magnum or louder. My wifes family is considered Crackers but they are no longer in the cattle/ranching business, just timber business.

    Where did the term coonass come from?
  • Oldfox1939Oldfox1939 Posts: 521 Officer
    Here ya go....
    Coonass, or ****-***, is used in reference to a person of Cajun ethnicity. Many consider it an insult but others consider it a compliment or badge of honor. Although many Cajuns use the word in regard to themselves, other Cajuns view the term as an ethnic slur against the Cajun people, especially when used by non-Cajuns.
  • magotmagot Posts: 6,640 Officer
    The Navy Reserve A-7 squadron, VA-204, based at New Orleans Naval Air Station, called themselves the "Coonazz Militia." They spelled it properly.
    They's more than there used to be, but the the Navy ain't as ate up with hall monitor mods as some organizations.
  • Fishin RodFishin Rod Posts: 2,620 Officer
    Read the book "A Land Remembered" by Patrick Smith and it explains the "Cracker" name. It's also a fantastic book for many more reasons than that.
    "Be what you is"....... Isaiah Minter
  • Capt M BrennanCapt M Brennan Posts: 488 Officer
    Ditto Fishin Rod. Anyone who lives in Florida should read that book. Florida in the late 1800's was wilder than the wild west. In fact much of Fredrick Remington's "western" art was done here in Florida.

    "If famed Western cowboy artist Frederic Remington didn't actually coin the title, he certainly perpetuated it by conferring it on Bone Mizell in 1895. The urbane Remington traveled from New York City to Florida that year to paint the scruffy-looking Mizell astride his horse. Remington called the painting A Cracker Cowboy. Other paintings of Bone and his cowboy colleagues appeared in the August 1895 issue of Harper's New Monthly Magazine. The appellation stuck. Eventually it evolved into Florida Cracker, the title now reserved for the Sunshine State's native-born sons and daughters.

    It was not by accident that Remington immortalized Bone. The artist recognized that cracker cowboys lacked the glamour associated with the Western variety he'd helped popularize. He also recognized that Bone had a charisma all his own, that Bone's fame as a rangeland raconteur and prairie prankster was widespread and well deserved."

    Read up on old Bone some say he was a rustler, some say he was just a cow hunter (Florida term for cowboy). Cow hunters use cow whips rather than lariets due to the heavy vegetative cover of Florida. You can still buy cow whips in the local feed stores, though since 1970 or so they've been made of waxed nylon parachute cord rather than leather.
    Captain Mike Brennan
  • RedbonzRedbonz Posts: 4,510 Captain
    OK now that is cleared up, what about yankee and redneck and no I don't mean Magot and Rucker...:grin
    If it don't fit force it. If it breaks it needed replace anyways. :banghead
  • Fishin RodFishin Rod Posts: 2,620 Officer
    "Redneck" comes from farmers being in the fields all day and getting sunburned on the back of their necks, farm boys are rednecks... I can only imagine where the term "Yankee" comes from.
    "Be what you is"....... Isaiah Minter
  • williepwilliep Posts: 42 Greenhorn
    A very good book, indeed. I don't understand why it has never been made into a movie, since it has all the elements of a big, sweeping epic. I'd like to see Sam Shepard as Tobias MacIvey.
  • Fishin RodFishin Rod Posts: 2,620 Officer
    williep wrote: »
    A very good book, indeed. I don't understand why it has never been made into a movie, since it has all the elements of a big, sweeping epic. I'd like to see Sam Shepard as Tobias MacIvey.

    Michael Clarke Duncan (The green mile) as "Skillet"......
    "Be what you is"....... Isaiah Minter
  • FrisbeeFrisbee Posts: 2,315 Officer
    Yeah yeah yeah. Ssdd. people wanna whitwash over distasteful truths. Look further than your noses.
    "Cracker" from Georgia. There was only one kind of "Cracker", and the entire south knew the name so no silly sweet BS was ever created to call some cowboys crackers. How freakin Childish the world is? Crackers were and still are the men on horseback that used to be tough on the slaves. "Cracker" was a word they invented and to them it was a bad word. Once "crackers" heard the term and understood it they liked being called crackers... But just like "Redneck" more people wrap themselves with the word than are because they wanna play like they are something.
    A Cracker in GA was to be feared. He was mean and not to be kidded with.
    Cowboys conming south with cattle couldn't move cattle through the swamp/praries of FL by cracking a whip... Cows have to be pushed not scared.
    Bull shet.
  • ruskinredneckruskinredneck Posts: 1,121 Officer
    Frisbee wrote: »
    Yeah yeah yeah. Ssdd. people wanna whitwash over distasteful truths. Look further than your noses.
    "Cracker" from Georgia. There was only one kind of "Cracker", and the entire south knew the name so no silly sweet BS was ever created to call some cowboys crackers. How freakin Childish the world is? Crackers were and still are the men on horseback that used to be tough on the slaves. "Cracker" was a word they invented and to them it was a bad word. Once "crackers" heard the term and understood it they liked being called crackers... But just like "Redneck" more people wrap themselves with the word than are because they wanna play like they are something.
    A Cracker in GA was to be feared. He was mean and not to be kidded with.
    Cowboys conming south with cattle couldn't move cattle through the swamp/praries of FL by cracking a whip... Cows have to be pushed not scared.
    Bull shet.
    Simply put... you are wrong. I have my great-grandfather's whip, my grand-father's whip and someday I will have my father's whip. You can my certainly move a cow through a swamp with a whip. I have seen it and done it.
  • FrisbeeFrisbee Posts: 2,315 Officer
    Revisionist history strikes again. Time and again the popular lie gains acceptance over the truth.
    The Hokies of Va Tech were called hokies after the "castrated turkies back in the ''70's. Now there is some other happy horse**** story about it.
    The North Carolina Tarheels were named after the "tarheels" from the colonial time period where the carolinas were known for producing decent boats. The method of waterproofing was to work tar into the cracks. Easiest way to do it was with their heels.
    But the North Carolina University decided to make themselves look better so they created the story that during the Revolutionary/Civil/Spainish American war a "Famous General" had retreat blown and the North carolina boys wanted to keep fighting. The General was heard to say, "Them boys from North Carolina retreat like they got Tar on thar heels."Hence the "North Carolina Tarheels."
    Grow up.
  • ruskinredneckruskinredneck Posts: 1,121 Officer
    Frisbee wrote: »
    Yeah yeah yeah. Ssdd. people wanna whitwash over distasteful truths. Look further than your noses.
    "Cracker" from Georgia. There was only one kind of "Cracker", and the entire south knew the name so no silly sweet BS was ever created to call some cowboys crackers. How freakin Childish the world is? Crackers were and still are the men on horseback that used to be tough on the slaves. "Cracker" was a word they invented and to them it was a bad word. Once "crackers" heard the term and understood it they liked being called crackers... But just like "Redneck" more people wrap themselves with the word than are because they wanna play like they are something.
    A Cracker in GA was to be feared. He was mean and not to be kidded with.
    Cowboys conming south with cattle couldn't move cattle through the swamp/praries of FL by cracking a whip... Cows have to be pushed not scared.
    Bull shet.
    Simply put... you are wrong. I have my great-grandfather's whip, my grand-father's whip and someday I will have my father's whip. You can my certainly move a cow through a swamp with a whip. I have seen it and done it.
  • FrisbeeFrisbee Posts: 2,315 Officer
    Simply put... you are wrong. I have my great-grandfather's whip, my grand-father's whip and someday I will have my father's whip. You can my certainly move a cow through a swamp with a whip. I have seen it and done it.
    which way do they go when you crack the whip?
  • ruskinredneckruskinredneck Posts: 1,121 Officer
    Away from the crack.
  • jlo86cjjlo86cj Posts: 64 Deckhand
    Away from the crack.

    Great response:)...just don't let yourself get pulled into the TROLL'S web...
    Jimmy

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  • leadheadleadhead Posts: 86 Greenhorn
    A Land Remembered should be REQUIRED reading for EVERY child in the Fl. school system in my opinion.
  • big_tbig_t Posts: 588 Officer
    Never happen. Too logical.
  • troutman57troutman57 Posts: 3,691 Officer
    I choose to believe the cowboy's whip driving cattle story. Just makes sense.
    This place Rocks if yer a crabber
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 8,204 Admiral
    Frisbee wrote: »
    which way do they go when you crack the whip?
    Found him again....
    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • FrisbeeFrisbee Posts: 2,315 Officer
    Away from the crack.
    So one cow is there and one cow is there and another cow is over there....and they all three go "away from the crack." Now you've gotta go git two cows back.
    And that's only if you are herding three cows.
  • FrisbeeFrisbee Posts: 2,315 Officer
    Cracking a whip to move cattle the length of Florida will wear out your whip, your arm, and your cattle. Cracking it loud enough that enough people hear it and start calling you "cracker" would be amazing in and of itself... Cracking a whip over slaves will get you the name "cracker" the same day. Cows will call you "moo" no matter how often you crack the whip.
    The truth ain't purty.
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 8,204 Admiral
    Frisbee wrote: »
    Cracking a whip to move cattle the length of Florida will wear out your whip, your arm, and your cattle. Cracking it loud enough that enough people hear it and start calling you "cracker" would be amazing in and of itself... Cracking a whip over slaves will get you the name "cracker" the same day. Cows will call you "moo" no matter how often you crack the whip.
    The truth ain't purty.
    Can you provide a source? I mean besides your local KKK buddies....
    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • seachasseachas Posts: 66 Deckhand
    Fishin Rod wrote: »
    Read the book "A Land Remembered" by Patrick Smith and it explains the "Cracker" name. It's also a fantastic book for many more reasons than that.
    or you can just come to my home,,,,, Lightsey Cattle Co
  • Capt.EdCapt.Ed Posts: 368 Officer
    Your all wrong.
    The name was origionally Crack W^ore because here in Florida we were the inventors of crack and the peoples would jump at any chance to be with whoever supplied the most crack to the peoples.
    In the late 20's the government stepped in and tried to take over the crack business.
    The peoples went into an up roar and started calling all the government guys w^ores.
    The origional crack w^ores did not want to be associated with the government so they changed their name to Crackers.
    It's just that simple.
    It will be a sad day when the last little mom and pop marina is gone to developers and only the rich will be able to enjoy the waters of Florida.
  • GatoRellaGatoRella Posts: 518 Officer
    ^ Lol
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