When should you visit the ER?

fishdishfishdish Posts: 1,189 Officer
Sitting here for over an hour at the ER with my wife and it baffles me that we are waiting to see a Dr. because everyone in front of us has the sniffles. She has some type of kidney infection with obvious signs of a fever and infection (shaking, chills, 104 temp) yet there is nothing I can do to expedite her in line to see a Dr. Why do people go to the ER with minor issues? I am about to lose my **** in here!
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  • Mister-JrMister-Jr Posts: 26,105 AG
    I hope your wife has nothing serious.

    Many people, with no physician relationship, use the ER as their primary health care provider.
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  • fishdishfishdish Posts: 1,189 Officer
    Thanks. I think she will be fine but I am disgusted at the people in here with no real emergency. Sitting in here BS'ing with masks on their faces. Nobody with visible pain or a bone sticking out. Politely *****ed to the staff and they apologized that they have to treat everyone the same. Another example of what our society is becoming. I'm calling an ambulance next time.
  • conchydongconchydong Pompano BeachPosts: 3,296 Captain
    Many of those in the ER with sniffles are probably uninsured and possibly illegals. They get treated for free at the ER.

    “Everyone behaves badly--given the chance.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

  • NewberryJeffNewberryJeff Posts: 6,964 Admiral
    Those signs and symptoms indicate your wife has/is high risk for sepsis and should treated with priority over those with "sniffles".
    You might have asked the staff for a copy of their sepsis alert protocol.
    Although sepsis can also result from the flu, the triage practitioner should be able to prioritize patients based on their assessment.
  • tagtag Posts: 8,683 Admiral
    The emergency room nurse you checked in with evaluated your wife's condition and assigned her a priority. Apparently your wife's condition wasn't bad enough to expedite her.

    That said I hope she is okay.
  • JohnABJohnAB Posts: 151 Deckhand
    fishdish wrote: »
    Thanks. I think she will be fine but I am disgusted at the people in here with no real emergency. Sitting in here BS'ing with masks on their faces. Nobody with visible pain or a bone sticking out. Politely *****ed to the staff and they apologized that they have to treat everyone the same. Another example of what our society is becoming. I'm calling an ambulance next time.

    What, they have to treat someone having a heart attack the same as one with a cold? I don't think so, they still triage...but they still must treat everybody...sooner or later.
  • dragon baitdragon bait Posts: 5,474 Admiral
    Healthy 21-Year-Old Bodybuilder Dies Just Days After Flu Diagnosis

    The flu-related death of a 21-year-old fitness buff from Pennsylvania is a chilling reminder that the virus can kill anyone.

    Kyler Baughman had a runny nose and a slight cough when he first went to visit his family for the holidays.
  • gandrfabgandrfab Posts: 19,979 AG
    Everyone isn't treated the same.
    I was lucky enough to go to the front of the line twice.

    To get help faster on a non life threatening ER visit get a boarder patrol jacket and or a ICE hat.
    Or you might try a DEA hat depending on what part of town you are in.
    :BUNNY gestapo

  • gandrfabgandrfab Posts: 19,979 AG
    Healthy 21-Year-Old Bodybuilder Dies Just Days After Flu Diagnosis

    The flu-related death of a 21-year-old fitness buff from Pennsylvania is a chilling reminder that the virus can kill anyone.

    Kyler Baughman had a runny nose and a slight cough when he first went to visit his family for the holidays.

    Dies Just Days After Flu Diagnosis, little slow for a ER visit.
    :BUNNY gestapo

  • Soda PopinskiSoda Popinski GrovelandPosts: 7,372 Admiral
    conchydong wrote: »
    Many of those in the ER with sniffles are probably uninsured and possibly illegals. They get treated for free at the ER.

    ^this. Can't be denied at the ER. They should be thanking you for paying their medical bills.
    People use statistics the way a drunk uses a street light, for support rather than illumination.
  • mplspugmplspug Lake Mary, FloridaPosts: 5,707 Admiral
    conchydong wrote: »
    Many of those in the ER with sniffles are probably uninsured and possibly illegals. They get treated for free at the ER.

    False! This was fixed by the ACA and I was assured it would keep people from doing this and driving up healthcare cost for everyone.

    Captain Todd Approves

  • LuckyMrSwLuckyMrSw Posts: 3,208 Captain
    mplspug wrote: »
    False! This was fixed by the ACA and I was assured it would keep people from doing this and driving up healthcare cost for everyone.

    Did you ever receive your $2500 in savings? I'm still waiting! :grin
    Please stop derailing my thread.
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    Don't call each other names
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  • Soda PopinskiSoda Popinski GrovelandPosts: 7,372 Admiral
    Considered taking my son there last night, he was bitten on the face by a spider and it swelled to the point his right eye shut. He's got an appointment this afternoon with our primary. now I have to fumigate his room.
    People use statistics the way a drunk uses a street light, for support rather than illumination.
  • Westwall01Westwall01 Posts: 4,473 Captain
    Gardawg wrote: »
    Which medical school did you attend?

    You must be a brilliant diagnostician to evaluate that many patients just by looking at them.

    Congratulations Doctor.

    Sorry your wife is sick but a fever is not going to get you to the head of the line.

    In case you missed it there is a major outbreak of flu and many people are dying from it. The sniffles is just a symptom of a life threatening disease.



    Don't they know who you are?

    Maybe you should give the guy a break, he was sitting in the ER with a loved one in pain. You saying that you wouldn't want your wife/child seen right away?
  • Westwall01Westwall01 Posts: 4,473 Captain
    fishdish wrote: »
    Go eat a bag of ****

    LOL! I pretty sure Gardawg does that on a daily basis
  • fishdishfishdish Posts: 1,189 Officer
    Not a doctor but why do people who obviously aren't in any type of medical emergency go to the ER? Wife went to walk in clinic the other day and they told her if things didn't improve to go to ER. Her temp got to 103 and she was in a lot of pain (she has a ton of tolerance). Told her thats it we are going to hospital since it was 9:30 pm and didn't want to wait through the night second guessing myself. Watching people come in, go through triage, and then going out to smoke and grab food is a bit disappointing. Of course someone having a heart attack or seizure, stroke, etc. should jump ahead but the people with minor flu symptoms? Not exactly an emergency in my opinion.
  • FirmanjaxFirmanjax Posts: 345 Deckhand
    What really backs up the ER are all the people who dial 911 and get transported via a rescue to the ER. Believe me there are just as many brought in and already in the back as there are sitting in the waiting room. Can't tell you how many times I've been told that someone wants to be transported so they don't have to wait in line. Good luck. Hopefully its nothing to serious.
  • treemanjohntreemanjohn Posts: 2,506 Captain
    conchydong wrote: »
    Many of those in the ER with sniffles are probably uninsured and possibly illegals. They get treated for free at the ER.

    There's your answer. Ask any ER doctor or nurse. They will all tell you. Going to a clinic costs money. Illegals will wait until a cold becomes a respiratory infection then head to the ER. The ER must treat them and prescribe the necessary medications. Then they never show for a follow up doctors visit because it costs money.
  • Soda PopinskiSoda Popinski GrovelandPosts: 7,372 Admiral
    fishdish wrote: »
    Not a doctor but why do people who obviously aren't in any type of medical emergency go to the ER? Wife went to walk in clinic the other day and they told her if things didn't improve to go to ER. Her temp got to 103 and she was in a lot of pain (she has a ton of tolerance). Told her thats it we are going to hospital since it was 9:30 pm and didn't want to wait through the night second guessing myself. Watching people come in, go through triage, and then going out to smoke and grab food is a bit disappointing. Of course someone having a heart attack or seizure, stroke, etc. should jump ahead but the people with minor flu symptoms? Not exactly an emergency in my opinion.

    The only thing that will bump you to the head of the line is coming in an ambulance, or like you said heart attack/stroke/seizure.

    I sat there from 6pm one night with stomach pains that were pretty consistent with an appendix being inflamed until 3am. ER dr does a very scientific test.....can you jump up and down for me. So I jump 5" off the ground and as I hit i slink right to the floor in pure agony. They run a scan, "sir your appendix doesn't appear inflamed on the scan".

    7am surgeon comes in. "i can run another scan or take it out". "Take the ****ing thing out FCOL!!!!!"

    After they remove it, they tell the wife that it was inflamed to the point it could have burst at any minute. But since I was not displaying symptoms of a heart attack or stroke or what have you. you sit.
    People use statistics the way a drunk uses a street light, for support rather than illumination.
  • mplspugmplspug Lake Mary, FloridaPosts: 5,707 Admiral
    Did you tell the Dr you think it's your appendix, that you Googled it?

    I have noticed with SOME Drs that you can't go in and say I think it is this because I looked it up online. It's like an affront to their whole career. They get offended and it will cloud their ability to diagnose. Note I used the operative word some.

    Captain Todd Approves

  • Soda PopinskiSoda Popinski GrovelandPosts: 7,372 Admiral
    mplspug wrote: »
    Did you tell the Dr you think it's your appendix, that you Googled it?

    I have noticed with SOME Drs that you can't go in and say I think it is this because I looked it up online. It's like an affront to their whole career. They get offended and it will cloud their ability to diagnose. Note I used the operative word some.

    nope, my mother is a RN and i described the pain to her. She said go to the ER and describe the pain if they know their butts from a hole in the ground they'll get you in.

    They didn't know
    People use statistics the way a drunk uses a street light, for support rather than illumination.
  • Florida Ex-patFlorida Ex-pat Posts: 364 Deckhand
    conchydong wrote: »
    Many of those in the ER with sniffles are probably uninsured and possibly illegals. They get treated for free at the ER.

    The correct terms are at no cost to them. The care they receive is far from free.
  • Florida Ex-patFlorida Ex-pat Posts: 364 Deckhand
    JohnAB wrote: »
    What, they have to treat someone having a heart attack the same as one with a cold? I don't think so, they still triage...but they still must treat everybody...sooner or later.
    I think the nurse meant that people with effectively equal triage levels are treated the same or in the order they arrived.
  • gandrfabgandrfab Posts: 19,979 AG
    I think the nurse meant that people with effectively equal triage levels are treated the same or in the order they arrived.

    winner winner chicken dinner
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  • Florida Ex-patFlorida Ex-pat Posts: 364 Deckhand
    fishdish wrote: »
    Not a doctor but why do people who obviously aren't in any type of medical emergency go to the ER? Wife went to walk in clinic the other day and they told her if things didn't improve to go to ER. Her temp got to 103 and she was in a lot of pain (she has a ton of tolerance). Told her thats it we are going to hospital since it was 9:30 pm and didn't want to wait through the night second guessing myself. Watching people come in, go through triage, and then going out to smoke and grab food is a bit disappointing. Of course someone having a heart attack or seizure, stroke, etc. should jump ahead but the people with minor flu symptoms? Not exactly an emergency in my opinion.

    Were they being seen ahead of you? By your post it sounds like they were in the waiting room with you. Did you tell them your wife had already been seen and told to return if symptoms worsened? I would hope that the ER would triage a potential renal infection higher than signs and symptoms of the very common Flu that is going around.
  • Florida Ex-patFlorida Ex-pat Posts: 364 Deckhand
    Firmanjax wrote: »
    What really backs up the ER are all the people who dial 911 and get transported via a rescue to the ER. Believe me there are just as many brought in and already in the back as there are sitting in the waiting room. Can't tell you how many times I've been told that someone wants to be transported so they don't have to wait in line. Good luck. Hopefully its nothing to serious.

    This is a common mis-conception. As is complaining of chest pain to get seen sooner. People are triaged from the ambulance gurney to the waiting room all the time at my hospital. We also do a rapid evaluation for certain conditions such as symptoms of a heart attack and most times they are triaged back out to the waiting room. Most ERs have about 10-50 beds max depending on the size of the hospital. Many times there are simply more people seeking care than there are beds/providers available. It is compounded by seasonal issues such as influenza. Another factor is the snow bird effect. Many of the retirees that descend upon your lovely state around November each year are heavy users of medical services. And they often arrive with symptoms of very serious issues.
  • BibBib Posts: 2,356 Captain
    Firmanjax wrote: »
    What really backs up the ER are all the people who dial 911 and get transported via a rescue to the ER. Believe me there are just as many brought in and already in the back as there are sitting in the waiting room. Can't tell you how many times I've been told that someone wants to be transported so they don't have to wait in line. Good luck. Hopefully its nothing to serious.

    yep. i worked as a tech for 3.5 years in an ed, most things here true. especially calling ems for ride for bs reasons. i remember one chick who brought her baby in with a fever, she was seen, and sent home with Rx. she was back an hour later by ems cause she couldn't afford a taxi to the drug store to get meds.

    also, coming by ambulance doesn't guarantee you get in the back. we often would tell ems on the phone when they called, take them up front. the look on their faces was awesome when ems would wheel them in the back and take them up front and drop them in front of registration.

    best time to come to ed, between 0300 and 0700.
  • Florida Ex-patFlorida Ex-pat Posts: 364 Deckhand
    mplspug wrote: »
    Did you tell the Dr you think it's your appendix, that you Googled it?

    I have noticed with SOME Drs that you can't go in and say I think it is this because I looked it up online. It's like an affront to their whole career. They get offended and it will cloud their ability to diagnose. Note I used the operative word some.

    Why would you try to drive a physician's practice. Tell them your symptoms and let them make the diagnosis. What if you are wrong but the physician allowed you to influence their diagnostics? Would you prefer an experienced physician try to figure out what is wrong with you or trust Google or WebMD? Right shoulder pain is a common sign of advanced colon cancer, left shoulder pain can be a heart attack or a ruptured spleen. Not sure you would want Motrin and physical therapy for either.
  • Soda PopinskiSoda Popinski GrovelandPosts: 7,372 Admiral
    Why would you try to drive a physician's practice. Tell them your symptoms and let them make the diagnosis. What if you are wrong but the physician allowed you to influence their diagnostics? Would you prefer an experienced physician try to figure out what is wrong with you or trust Google or WebMD? Right shoulder pain is a common sign of advanced colon cancer, left shoulder pain can be a heart attack or a ruptured spleen. Not sure you would want Motrin and physical therapy for either.

    Come on you know people. They driver to the mechanic's then tell them what is definitely wrong with their cars because they googled it, and 99% of the time they are dead wrong. people are people. They all think they have infinite wisdom because their phones told them that squeal was a fan belt not a wheel bearing.

    And that pain in their chest is a heart attack, not a panic attack, or indigestion, or gas.


    Problem is I tell my mother who's a RN what i'm feeling, she says appendix. I tell the ER doc the same thing, he's not sure.
    People use statistics the way a drunk uses a street light, for support rather than illumination.
  • Fish HaidFish Haid Posts: 7,816 Admiral
    Considered taking my son there last night, he was bitten on the face by a spider and it swelled to the point his right eye shut. He's got an appointment this afternoon with our primary. now I have to fumigate his room.

    Most "spider bites" are actually staph infections.
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